The is is interesting. I thought the US would be much higher. Though doesn't surprise me to see china so high up
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Light blue is bang on in the middle so it's still quite a lot.
"Bang on in the middle" of the legend, but not of the data. And below the middle of the legend, actually. The bottom half of the legend covers 0 - 50 while the top half covers 50 - 200+. The US is at 31 mg/kg as of 2020
Good point I feel like this graphic could use some improvements tbh 🧐
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31mg too much
It's impossible to use 0 unless you just want to let animals die from and spread infections. We live in a world in which bacteria and animals have been in an evolutionary arms race for a billion years
I feel like we shouldn't be eating meat if we have to jump through so much shit to "make it work". Putting increasing your tolerance to antibiotics on the top of the cake and it's a no go for health reasons alone.
But we don't have to jump through so much shit to make it work. We use science to treat or eliminate health issues in animals that existed well before modern medicine, or even before domestication. Be clear I'm not talking about the horrors of factory farming, but about veterinary medicine. People suffered before modern medicine too, but we've reduced mortality by a ton
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I mean, we're doing better than basically every other 1st world country, and those that are beating us don't have big livestock industries.
Are Nordic countries invisible to you?
The U.S. has to pretend that they don’t exist because it would cause them to face a lot of big issues otherwise.
we're doing better than basically every other 1st world country
You must have a very unusual definition of first world.
The UK and New Zealand are both big livestock producers which are doing well on this metric. But yes, the US is doing alright overall here
Survey was for antibiotics not steroids
Ah - that was why I was so confused. Canada, for example, limits the growth hormone in dairy cattle while the US does not.
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You have been banned from lemmy.ml
Thank
I thought the US would be way up there given the intensive livestock industry there. But I guess we all underestimated the pig industry in China. They have multi-storey slaughter houses for pigs over there!
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Hope you had a great christmas
My leek+mushroom stuffed seitan roast was delicious, antibiotic-free, and cruelty-free. So tyvm, I did.
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Brazil certainly should be broken down by state, I imagine the USA as well.
My state in south Brazil has VERY strict controls on animals entering the state so we can use less antibiotics and other stuff.
Then you'd likely have to do that for every country with subdivisions that affect the chart
Are the nordics low because of cleaner feed operations, or are the nordics zero because it’s been banned?
In Scandinavia they have a policy to minimize the use of antibiotics, even on people, to prevent antibiotic resistance.
Which has two sides to it. It is very hard to get antibiotics unless there is a clear sign of a specific infection going on, e.g. after a tick bite those red circles on the skin.
In any other case just having high fever for a bit does not prompt doctors to check for bacterial infections. Instead they ask you how long you got that fever and if you say anything lower than 6/7 days they simply tell you to come back after 6/7 days if the fever isn't gone still. Only then they run a blood test and prescribe antibiotics, should you have a bacterial infection.
I understand the idea but you could probably test much earlier and give the antibiotics, if useful, earlier so that people can avoid feeling miserable for just a few days instead of a whole week. It also just prompts people to lie about how long they've been sick, just in case.
Oh, yeah. Exaggerating your symptoms is the only way to make doctors take your condition seriously. Unless you are a pregnant woman, or a cancer patient. Nordic healthcare is sometimes frustrating in small ways.
Still sounds leaps and bounds better than the US system that my family and I have been ground through for these past several decades.
Sure, but that wasn't the question here.
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Agriculture isn't terribly industrialised in Sweden and Norway. So smaller farms means fewer animals get infected when something is going around. And fewer practises like weaning piglets early and giving them prophylactic antibiotics.
And the projection makes them look big on the map.
Easy to not use any when you can just freeze bacteria to death lol
China builds workers, they really don't care what happens to their people after prime working ages of 14 to 35, ergo they pump their livestock up with as many antibiotics as can produce the most protein, and leave any issues of antibiotic resistance to .... later (never)
if they aren't careful, they might cause a global pandemic... wait a minute
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how much antibiotics should i take if i go to china? im around 70 kilos
Depends, do you plan on being eaten?
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>china being a shithole again
every time
Wait, is this really true? I always assumed US was on the bad side of this trend
Americas is low because they are cheap bastards, not out of any concern for food quality or animal welfare.
Thankfully I live in a country where they use it very sparse. Unfortunately, not alle the meat I consume is comming from my country...
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