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Over 60 German and Austrian universities and research institutions announced their exit from Elon Musk's X (formerly Twitter), citing the platform's promotion of right-wing populist content and its incompatibility with democratic and scientific values.

This follows Germany's Federal Court of Justice and trade unions leaving the platform.

The German government is also debating a withdrawal, expressing concerns over X’s polarizing effect on political discourse.

The departure comes after Musk’s public support for Germany's far-right AfD party and a live talk with its leader Alice Weidel ahead of upcoming elections.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 124 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Leave it and....

Leave it and....

block that steaming pile of garbage.

It's critical to make this asshat's soapbox irrelevant.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

That’s a cartoon waiting to happen. Musk jumping up and down on his dilapidated soapbox, in the center of X plaza, surrounded only by his bots. It’s the glorious final stage of the echo chamber.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 118 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What the hell took them so fucking long. Anyone still using Xitter is a fascist enabler.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well ain't that a sweeping generalization. Almost like it can't possibly be true...

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Like: Vacation in SA = Support butchering of Journalists.

It's really that easy. Give money to evil people (on purpose knowingly)... support evil shit.

Consumersnhave some responsibility too. Everything else is deflection and: Mimimimi

Like Nestle... avoid their products, kill the company. "But I like Nesquick"... Alright, eat Nesquick kill some Chocolate Framers for it, but be aware what you do.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 69 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Please rest of the world - SHUN Musk and to whatever degree you can, also Trump, exactly like this. Their egos can't handle it, and your efforts to de-legitimize them both may be one of our most effective weapons to limit the damage they do.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When they ask why, tell them "Because you're friggin weird and we've had enough." Lol

This is the case with so many world leaders. If nobody accepted their money, and everyone just pointed, laughed, rolled their eyes, and moved on whenever they opened their mouths, they'd instantly cease to have power over world events.

If only...

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[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Remember when "social media" was our friends posting vacation pictures on their glitter-GIF-dumpster MySpace pages and memes were about funny cats who couldn't spell, instead of both being weaponized fashy-virus vectors?

And now we're talking about entire nations banning internet platforms thanks to ultra-rich crybabies using meme-fluence to buy elections.

. . .man. . . :(

Anyway, yeah Germany, we're over here on our own community-led open-source infrastructure having a great time, jus'sayin.

I've heard your people even have the best memes too!

Germany's feds better not start a tiktok. :(

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

X is pronounced like "icks" in German. Appropriate.

[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Godammit, elon. All you had to do was be cool. Coast on that "visionary' crap and keep on winning life. But, no. You are just and asshole. Jerk.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good fucking riddance. What took them so long?

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

Lazyness. Incompetence. Lack of know. Lack of Care.

The same shit everywhere.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fukkin ban the website.

There’s already laws for it, just ban it.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We can also ban the far right AfD. The law allows it and almost everyone who knows enough about the German law supports it saying that it has good chances to be successful, but still nothing happens. It has been over one year since we got probably the biggest protests since the reunification of Germany, they happened after reports of members of the AfD being part of a meeting where they planned mass deportations, and no political party gave a damn about it.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It’s almost as if the financial elite doesn’t rally care about freedom and all that democracy bullshit.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago

Better late than never...

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

“Right wing populist content”

Just call it what it is: lying to stir up hatred.

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Leave Twitter and go where?

With this question unanswered, the sentiment is not very powerful.

Worse, if the answer is "go to Bluesky" or some other institution with a trust structure identical to Twitter, the sentiment is totally meaningless.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Here's a wild idea - go to the official website of the institution and click the "news" tab.

It's like people forgot how the World Wide Web works.

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] randomuser38529@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I thought of that. RSS doesn't actually do push notifications, though. At least, I'm pretty sure. It's based on polling from the subscribers' clients.

[–] randomuser38529@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t remember all the technobabble but am almost sure Apple push notifications are actually ’pulled’.

Regardless, there are some sweet RSS reader apps which make it seem like push notifications.

This solves spreading the news.

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[–] rhel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Their official server in the fediverse (https://social.bund.de/public/local) with currently 99 active government agencies and institutions.

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aw, nice!

But that was never mentioned in the article. Missed opportunity.

[–] rhel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, Germany in general has a pretty active open source community, so there are already a lot of alternatives out there. Unfortunately, most IT people are bad at marketing, which is why hardly anyone knows about these alternatives.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

That's just the federal level, by now every state should also have an instance, e.g. here's the SH one. Offers accounts to state ministries and agencies, municipalities, public and state-owned corporations and charitable/non-profit associations.

Then there's instances from public broadcasters, someone should make a list.

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[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Leave Twitter and go where? - person commenting on fucking Lemmy of all places

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

The point is that they didn't give an alternative in the article. AP is obviously what I would recommend.

[–] CgH10N4Co2@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Bluesky is built on an open, decentralized protocol. There are appications that allow the AT protocol to federate with Mastodon, even. So yeah, move to Bluesky. Its not like Mastodon isn't also a private company.

Literally anyone could build apps on top of the AT protocol to create a parallel Fediverse to the ActivityPub protocol Fediverse. Best case scenario is we fold them in.

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell, all real accounts are all hosted on Bluesky's servers. Until that changes, it's centralised, de facto.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

I think someone else already posted the information above about hosting your own account on a private server, so I won't double dip there. But yeah, you totally could host your own server with accounts :)

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It is not meaningless to deny X/Twitter content and legitimacy. It may not be the solution you want but it ultimately hurts X/Twitter which hurts Elon. That’s all that matters to most people.

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[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How about just quiting without replacing it with something else? Everyone desperately needs to stop using social media like a crack addict needs to stop doing crack. Shitter, FB, IG, TokTik, etc - it's all utter, utter shit.

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Organisations use things like Twitter to broadcast news as push notifications to a large audience of subscribers. This is something that they're going to want to keep doing, and is only one aspect of social media. On its own, I don't see this ability as being damaging. They're basically just using Twitter as a more efficient mailing list. Things only get bad when opaque AIs start ranking shit and publishing to non-subscribers.

ActivityPub does provide a really good way to reproduce this ability. It is a good solution.

Bluesky is just another Twitter, subject to all of the same drawbacks. The only difference between the two of them is four years.

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[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

It doesn’t have a trust structure identical to Twitter though.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

this is just like what mark zuckerberg said about all of europe having “too much censorship” and “making innovation impossible”. but i guess if germany really cared about being unbiased they would have moved all their institutions to texas by now or something.

[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where is the censorship here?

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Where is the innovation? Those companies just buy other companies they don't innovate they buy

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

I fear where they are going to go... they probably have a governmental Mastodon instance, but will go to Bluesky or Threads. They will have learned next to nothing from the experience, I bet.

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