Say what you will about the woke gaming agenda, I love to see a company brave enough to take this stance. It's refreshing to see a publisher wear its beliefs on its sleeve because now I know that I don't have to spend money on their trash games
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City Interactive and trash games have always been synonymous. They shortened their name to get rid of the mountain of trash they have produced, but it's not working.
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie
Going out of your way to not include "any social or political agenda" is a social and political agenda.
It's also fucking impossible if you're telling a game with any kind of narrative at all. Based on Lords of the Fallen though, saying their games had a narrative is indeed a stretch.
I know nothing of the plot of that game but i bet you kill one or more corrupt kings and religious figures so im going to pre-emptively call it woke for pushing an anti religious and anti monarchal agenda
Yeah, correct guess. In the game you kill the leader of the dominant religion (based on martyrdom and sacrifice) after they have refused to take action against the corruption in their own ranks, and allowed atrocities to be committed in the name of religion. Turns out (spoilers) that the head of the religion is also corrupt. Not really subtle, is it?
You're almost certainly joking but also like .. yeah everything has political subtext. A lot of Internet duds are just too stupid to read it.
I think most of the people mad on the Internet about this kind of thing couldn't pass 12th grade English, and certainly not like a 200 level English Literature course.
So, they're only going to make games with no narrative complexity going forward. Got it.
If it doesn't, then it's not really art, it's it? It's just a mass-market commercial product.
Even the Avengers movies, everyone's favorite garbage media, include social and political commentary.
The way I view it intentionally avoiding social and political commentary is in itself social and political commentary.
It's already not art and just mass market commercial products.
Let's be honest, the companies allowed inclusion of the DEI and social/political commentary because they didn't think it mattered not becuase they actually care about such issues. Now they think it might affect the bottom line they don't want their devs doing it anymore. But they were hardly marketing and selling games based on this stuff.
Let's be honest, the companies allowed inclusion of the DEI and social/political commentary because they didn't think it mattered not becuase they actually care about such issues.
No. They included this stuff because they thought it would make them more money. Now they think excluding it will make them more money.
It was always about the bottom line.
There is a difference between filling in a diversity checklist for mass appeal and "allowing" it.
Not allowing their teams to include the subjects goes against artistic freedom in the same way that forcing them does.
Exactly. I hate it when it's ignored and when it's shoehorned. I just want it to be authentic.
The trick is that if you made a good game, then in ten years idiots will point to your highly political game as being from the time when games weren't woke.
Besides that "one weird trick", the other is to just include a diverse sets of people/cultures in your game. There's no need to push their agendas, just don't misrepresent them. That's actually what they're asking for, even. It's a lot more effective, IMO.
Trolls will still complain your game is woke, but they won't have any teeth.
They thought Bluey was too woke and made "Chip Chilla", which turns out to just be the same shit but uncreative, soulless, and blatantly agenda-driven. It turns out even treating kids as having agency and inherent value as people is too woke.
I hate political games. That's why my favourite is Fallout New Vegas, no woke politics, just a good, simple tale about a man delivering a package.
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That's just a pretty way of announcing you will be censoring your writers.
This statement outlines this developer's sociopolitical agenda.
Another video game company embraces bigotry because reasons.
Cool, so, boring ass games with just straight white men and bimbos, because that’s not politics, that’s the default.
I can’t wait until companies realize that they’re scared of the biggest pussies on earth, conservative white men.
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Their games are ass, this don't surprise me
What would DEI even mean for this game? It looks like it's about hooded and masked figures killing baddies in a medieval world.
It means no black people or women in power
Obligatory:
There are only two skin colors: White and political.
Two genders: Male and political.
Two sexual orientations: Straight and political.
Two religious beliefs: Christian and political.
Etc. pp.
You're still doing that anti AI signature nonsense after all this time!? 🤣 My brother in Darwin... That text truly means NOTHING to the bots scraping the content.
Hmm, I thought I'd blocked all the people making uninformed comments about it by now. Glad I can add one to the list 🙂
then you can block me too, i guess. AI companies literally use pirated media to train their models. If not even big publishing houses and studios can do anything against it, your little link will generate nothing but laughter
making uninformed comments about it
I have a bot scrapping and feeding every comment of yours to 2 different LLMs without the AI warning link, so they're absolutely correct that you're wasting your time
And the fun part is that blocking this account won't stop me <3
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CI Games per the article. won't be purchasing anything from them going forward.
In all honesty, I don't care if a game has an agenda. Just if it's relevant and well written
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"While some videogames have recently taken the opportunity to embed social or political agendas within their experiences, it is clear that many players do not appreciate this, and as a result, we have seen a number of high profile releases underperforming commercially during the last year alone," Hill said. "Our games will always be developed to maximise player enjoyment and commercial success, and as such, we will not be integrating any social or political agencies into these experiences going forward having observed the high risk this can present."
Talk about journos making a mountain out of a molerat... If it in fact was written by a "journo" and not an AI. To be fair, journo is a stretch, journos have journalism degrees, there's very little separating "gaming journalists" from bloggers. (Schreier and the like being the exception)
Small time Polish publisher, with the only games of fame, so to speak, being Lords of the Fallen (both versions) and Sniper: Ghost Warrior series (no relation to Sniper Elite)
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I guess they are seeing what is happening to other DEI-heavy games. Pendulum swung too far into one direction and it's starting to come back.
Other DEI heavy games like LoL, that have been wildly successful for years.
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Yall can dislike all you want, but we all know a lot of people out there are not fans of DEI ideology. You can say they are wrong, you can say they are immoral, but that doesn't change the fact people have started to have serious negative feelings towards DEI stuff - and companies are noticing it.
Companies want money, they don't give a shit about DEI. They only have a shit about it when it was beneficial to them and their pocket. DEI went hard when it used to pump their stock cause ESG and shit - it ain't like that no more. People are starting to dislike it and it's only gonna get more intense.
As time goes on DEI will be affecting company earnings negatively more and more - and thus they will stop the DEI stuff. SIMPLE.
It's true and we all know it. Love or hate DEI - it's increasingly declining, and the simple reason is - common man ain't a fan of it.
Good, I stand with them 100%. This Dei stupidity has gone far enough
Sir you can't have this opinion on Lenmy/reddit. I fully agree with you that this forced DEI bs has to stop, but you can not say this stuff here without being down voted. Once again, I fully agree with you, this can't blow over soon enough.
Thanks, and I don't care about all the leftists/activists that live in their enclosed world that think that DEI works when it's proven, in every company and product made, that it doesn't.
Let them keep crying 😂
Windshield wipers were invented by a woman.
Automatic elevator doors were invented by a Black man.
Alan Turning.
But tell me again how diverse people don't make successful products?
There's not a point in arguing with fascists, they didn't reach their worldview through an observation of reality and you won't deprogram them over the internet.
For another matter, chances are these two idiots are just one idiot with a sock puppet.
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Im just suck of the forced DEI crap in our entertainment products. There is nothing wrong with it, unless it's forced like it has been for the last couple of years only to hit a checkbox for that sweet dei money.
Yeah, exactly. Like stop forcing these straight white man stories on me and making it so political, right? Like go kiss someone your color with different parts in your own bedroom. I have no problem with what kinda freaky cis stuff you do in private, where I don't have to see it, not participating in my society, or being acknowledged and allowed to be a living existing person. No problem with you at all.
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So the game is going to be completely lacking in story and motivations and dialogue? Cool flex?
Did Lord of the lidl 2 even feature any of that? If not it doesn't seem the have helped them.
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