TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

Yeah, that's my guess. He did quote the Communist Manifesto

It’s %100 rom and it’s a perfect description of him

What threw me off was "main characters." If I thought recurring characters were included I would've gotten it in one.

That is always the consensus whenever this is reposted, but I would argue that description doesn't really fit. Rom is too clever and not hypermasculine enough

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Himbo

Are you honestly suggesting Rom is not a himbo? He is smart but.. come on now.

Slight correction but TOS didn't have the first interracial kiss. A very, very early one, but not the first.

Not that it makes the kiss mean any less, just a clarification for future reference. So many people are assholes and I've seen them use that oft made mistake to try and discredit everything else someone says.

If you go back a little in time me you can talk about how rock music and the shaking of hips would destroy society. A little further and it was the first kiss on screen.

This is true of every generation it seems. Here is a supposed quote from King Naram Sin of Chaldea, 3800 years B.C

"We have fallen upon evil times and the world has waxed very old and wicked. Politics are very corrupt. Children are no longer respectful to their parents."

Woke is the new sheeple. In that...anyone who says is unironically is you know they're an absolute moron parroting the latest talking points they were told to be outraged at.

Yeah!

Weirdly, The Orville is the recently created media that stands closest, in my opinion.

I think it's a far cry from DS9.

And I'm pretty sure I don't share many politics with Seth MacFarlane.

But The Orville genuinely prioritizes asking the audience to reflect on tough topics through a lens of empathy and compromise.

Honestly, exploring for exploration's sake (as opposed to conquest or resource extraction) is pretty woke too.

Except for the one inconvenient point that the entire series is predicted on THE ENTIRE SPECIES GOING WOKE AND NOT BICKERING OVER IT.

Do we seriously think us ugly bags of mostly water could get safely out to the hard vacuum of space without a lengthy bout of cooperation and super-getting-along powers?

I suspect we are actually upset about is the in-your-face woke tropes that are used as 2x4s with nails driven through them as devices to drive the narrative. But that's not just trek, that's kinda all modern media. It's almost like the corresponding rise in incivility and everyday life is being protested, or warned against by the people doing the writing. I agree that it's poorly executed but bad writing doesn't mean that "being good and kind to one another" is a shitty idea, or that it's impossible have characters acting with an enlightened humanity, which is all being "woke" actually is.

Strange New Worlds is good, at least S1 (haven't watched S2 yet)

I am trans. Your take is not accurate. There is literally no way to transition and at the same time, forget/abandon who you are as a person; skills, core values, ethics, hobbies, likes, dislikes, etc, etc. They persist.

What changes is what a person is "allowed" to like/feel/express.

Jadzia Dax presents very strongly as fem but behaves very outwardly as masc.

But the bit that matters is that characters we're meant to admire chose to accept Dax as they presented at any given time, without giving them needless crap for it.

I recall most LGBT characters on TV at the time had to accept a studio mandated minimum quota of jokes at their expense.

Dax was refreshingly different, in being allowed to present as LGBT and as a heartthrob love interest.

(And bonus kudos to Garak the Simple Taylor for also being an LGBT heart-throb love interest when that certainly wasn't allowed by the studios.)

This is a character ultimately designed to satisfy the male gaze and the male desire for a “drinking buddy”; i.e. the “action girl” trope.

I mean, yeah. You're very correct that Dax is about male gaze much more than Trans representation.

But this sign I had made special for Star Trek applies once again:

Empathy through horniness still technically counts as progress.

Lol.

The Boys got too woke in later seasons. Black Dr. Who is just forced DEI politics. Heisenberg is actually an american icon for supporting his family and working two jobs while having cancer. Real Jedis would vote Trump for peace in the galaxy.