this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
413 points (100.0% liked)

Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ

60351 readers
469 users here now

⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.

Rules • Full Version

1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy

2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote

3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs

4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others



Loot, Pillage, & Plunder

📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):

🏴‍☠️ Other communities

Torrenting/P2P:

Gaming:


💰 Please help cover server costs.

Ko-Fi Liberapay
Ko-fi Liberapay

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

No, it's not like stealing a physical item from a store.

"stealing" a digital copy of a movie, tv show or a game is like if the item you're stealing from a store is infinitely copyable. Like the replicator from star trek...or that one episode of Sabrina the teenage witch with that box that can make a perfect copy of everything you put inside of it.

Of course I personally would never pirate anything, no matter how much streaming services increase their prices or how much they crack down on VPN usage to get around geo-restrictions, PIRACY IS BAD AND ONLY BAD PEOPLE DO IT.

I've never pirated anything in my whole life!

There are people who understand what I'm saying...but apparently most people don't get it.

Of course that means I still would never pirate anything. That would be horrible to "steal" a copy of a movie or a TV show

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Personally I don't really care too much about whether it's moral or not. I pirate when I feel like it and don't when I don't feel like it. I also pay for some things that I pirated before and enjoyed as long as it isn't too expensive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

And yet you can borrow anything from the local library for free and its considered totally fine and not pirating.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

my view on it lies in two seperate buckets:

  1. if the thing being pirated is vastly overpriced for its function i don't see it as immoral
  2. if the thing being pirated is no longer available or was never made available for private ownership, ie only able to be streamed and only available on said service so long as the host streamer still has rights to do so, it isn't immoral.

and just to be clear, i don't see piracy as inherently evil or anticapitalistic. there have been several books and apps that i pirated that i liked and converted to an actual buyer to get more books in the series or get updates to the program.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Big agree, also now I want to rewatch Sabrina the Teenage Witch lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can you further expand on why you think it's bad? I'm generally curious.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

myth: ~~cable~~ piracy is wrong.

fact: ~~cable~~ companies are big, faceless corporations which makes it okay!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

The only person stealing is the one who circumvents the DRM and shares it. It’s not stealing to see or hear something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, the replicator is making food out of SOMETHING. I'm guessing it's some kind of waste produce from the engine room. It needs matter to operate. It can't create ex-nihilo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The replicator from Star Trek makes matter out of pure energy, not out of other matter. It can make almost anything out of matter, so long as it has the molecular pattern on file, and the ship has enough energy available to power the replicators. That energy comes primarily from energy storage dedicated to replicator production, but in emergencies where a massive amount of matter need fabricated, additional power can be provided by the warp core.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So they're using several hiroshima's or nagasaki's worth of nuclear bomb's energy to produce a cup of Earl Gray, hot? Seems like using garbage or human waste would save a lot of energy?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the power required to produce a small amount of matter?

While we're at it, is a transporter actually transporting me? Or is it technically really replicating me?

Because what I assumed was happening was they essentially had a transporter like device that would take some matter (say a big pile of human dung) transport it (i.e, convert it into the atoms/energy/whatever the transporter uses run it through a pattern buffer that's stored in the transporter for say, Earl Gray hot) and beam it into the Captain's quarters as Earl Gray hot instead of poop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A cup of tea is around 500megatons if you convert all the matter into energy. We’re talking a few thousand Hiroshimas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think conversion from matter to energy and back again seems extreme. Maybe it's just matter to matter but something quantum level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Do they use the replicator when they’re not moving? Maybe they’re just picking up some hydrogen along the way?

Seems like high energy particles are easier to convert into new elements than low energy ones. Perhaps they’re transcribing uranium with the ingredients. Who knows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Piracy is great because it helps you not support corporation’s greed. They can’t profit off of you 😄

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

But of course, piracy is bad. That's why you shouldn't ever do it! Why do you think every corporation has to get government handouts from the tax payers? Because we keep stealing from them....I mean...You keep stealing from them. I would never do that and I certainly don't ever do that. I haven't paid for any movies in over 10 years, so obviously that means I just don't watch anything that costs money to see.

I use a privacy friendly VPN that allows P2P because I play games online and no other reason

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It literally depends on your morals… it’s a question only you can answer.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›