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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 132 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] solomon42069@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

On Elon Musk's X, animal abuse is the safe content.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

how old is he now? Is it finally ok to set upon little Baron?

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago

Was born March 20th, 2006. He'll be 19 in a couple months.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Holy shit, how was this not bigger news? I like to think I keep up with things but this is the first time I have read any of this.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Trump was nearly 60 when he had him. Barron could have genetically predisposed mental health issues.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Barron could have genetically predisposed mental health issues because he's a Trump. Look at the rest of them.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just buy a tesla and a smartphone. Those are the spy machines described in the book. The difference is that the 1984 government had to hide that stuff in your house and now, people even pay for them.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

The 1984 government did not hide that stuff in your hozse. The telescreens are the centerpiece of any appartements. The difference is that in the book, everybody knows they are supervised and fear the supervisors, while today, nobody cares.

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[–] __nobodynowhere@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Honestly don't do anything you wouldn't want a fascism regime knowing about on any PC running Windows or MacOS or any smart phone.

On that note, what Linux distro are best for privacy?

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[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is 1984 banned? That was mandatory reading...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

As others have told you, yes. And the worst part is the justification is usually because Winston and Julia have sex. And it's not titillating. Orwell was not exactly writing erotica.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

yes they are literally banned at most schools in my state. Along with books that have LGBT charicters in them

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 months ago

Literally 1984

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Any librarian worth their salt would find a secret way to get that kid his book

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This kinda hits different when you replace cats with cows.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you're killing the cow in the same way the people in those videos kill cats, then it doesn't hit much different at all.

There's definitely a line here, but I suspect that we disagree on where that line is.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you think cows are killed in anything but abject horror, I'd recommend you at the very least watch Dominion, which was linked above.

[–] ThanksForAllTheFish@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm not trying to cause offence, but is there an ethical way to eat animals, or does it become unethical as soon as we have the means and ability to not do so?

It seams like for a lot of people, thier traditions and culture outweigh thier personal ethical benefits and thats the biggest problem that has to be overcome. Some places do not allow for growing sufficient and complete protein to feed the population, for example Egypt or Bangladesh. It seems that the cultures might be harder to overcome in these places.

I was thinking maybe insects as a protein source would be a positive step for these locations. But thats obviously hard to overcome culturally. What do vegans think of eating insects?

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Veganism seeks to exclude animal exploitation and cruelty as far as is possible and practicable.

For a Western audience, where one would have access to a well stocked supermarket, that would generally mean a complete boycott, but it does ultimately come down to the individual to decide what is and isn't practicable. If you have nessary medication that contains animal products, or is tested on animals, for example, I don't think you'd find anyone expecting you to give that up.

As for insects, they're within the kingdom of Animalia, so yes, veganism applies to them too. That said, you can't go through life without ever stepping on an ant, and I don't know anyone who'd place the exact same value on an fly and a cow. One has a vastly more sophisticated brain and nervous system. That said, I generally don't try to play "utilitarian calculus".

Ultimately it's a "do your best" situation.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's unlikely that insects (or any animals for that matter) are a better use of the land, because ultimately animals need to eat plants, too, and they use up a good chunk of the energy themselves.

Occasionally, you can grow grass where proper crops won't and animals can graze there, but to my knowledge, this isn't particularly relevant in practice, because farmers will typically feed more nutrious food to minimize the time until the animals can be slaughtered.

You talk about complete protein, by which I assume you mean the amino acid distribution, but I find it hard to believe that the inefficient land use of animals is offset by them converting some of the amino acids to be better suitable for us.
Because ultimately, if you manage to grow more lentils and whatnot, you can totally just eat more lentils to reach your 100% of each amino acid.
Wealthy cultures eat significantly more protein than is actually needed, for example.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or replace cats with billionaires.

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[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

This is literally what YouTube is like though. The less educational content is, the more likely they are to remove or age restrict it. NileGreen made a video about this recently, it's kinda long but you can watch it if this sounds interesting.

[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (18 children)

Where is this book banned for children for being a bad influence?

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

Most recently in Florida. It's been banned often in the United States, it's also been banned in Vietnam

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

Just look for red states/cities in the US. More than likely its been banned there.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why you're getting downvoted. I also didn't know this book was banned, and was going to ask something similar.

[–] guy@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago

One would assume that Kurt Vonnegut would have some awareness about books

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

1984 is more appropriate for adolescents than for kids under tweens. If anyone has read the ending, the imagery in Room 101 is pretty graphic. There are also sexually suggestive imagery in the middle of the book.

The best dystopian book for kids that warns of authoritarianism would be Fahrenheit 451 and Animal Farm imo. The latter was my introduction to George Orwell by my teacher just before I entered adolescence.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You know the book is old enough to be in the public domain nowadays, and you can legally download a copy of it using the same device they use for watching those videos, right?

[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I get where you're coming from, but that isn't the point

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[–] Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (10 children)

The proper reaction to finding out that librarians are legally barred from lending certain classic novels to children is not, "oh that's okay, they can just download it." Especially when we're literally talking about a book dealing with suppressing speech.

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't follow american book ban list. Is it actually ban?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't think it's currently on any ban lists in the US; if it is, it's just in a few odd corners. It has been on ban lists around the world in the past for various reasons.

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Fun fact: 1984 by George Orwell is legal in China

but as you can see, it doesnt matter

people don't make the connection to IRL

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