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Okay, posting this here because it is literally called No Stupid Questions, but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this.

I got a message today on Reddit saying I was permabanned . . . I had really good karma there, never received any notification that I had done anything wrong, and never had a post deleted. The message said to check my inbox for more details . . . but there were no details in my inbox. I tried to appeal, and it was just denied in a couple of hours. No explanation.

Anyone else experience this or know what other avenues I can take? I'm going to be honest here, I had made a lot of friends there. I suppose I could make a throwaway account to let them know where else they can find me, but I'm pretty bummed out.

For context: I kind of prided myself as being a "Ted Lasso of Reddit." I mostly just got on to give people pep talks in the beginner fitness and /toastme subreddits. I'm going to miss that a lot, and I kind of needed a community right now, even if it was an online one. But, hey, maybe that's just my sign to check out this place instead. I'll try to look at the bright side.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The bans are AI driven, and the appeal responses are AI driven. You won't find an explanation for why you were banned, because there was no human behind the ban

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They're probably tuning the type of engagement the ~~stockholders~~ admins demand. Anyone who doesn't fit the bill of circlejerking the hive mind gets the boot.

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Reddit has been actively hostile for a while.

Here?
On one hand, it's a smaller place, so there's less content to browse...
On the other hand, it's a smaller place so you can reply to an older thread and still have interaction with people.

On reddit, if I replied to a thread that was 1h old, it was like sending a message in a bottle, floating in an endless sea where none would find it or shouting in the void.

Anyway, welcome home / make it your home.
Peace

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Other things I like:

  • The decentralized nature means you will never truly be banned from everywhere unless your behaviour is universally considered unacceptable, in which case good riddance
  • There are fewer of us, so some people care about keeping individual users around. I've still received bans from communities for reasons I find questionable, but that's in the nature of having people manage communities themselves.
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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was randomly banned for no apparent reason. They gave zero fucks. Sorry that this happened to you too.

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'll just consider this being in good company, then!

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Still Ted Lassoing. I love it.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My old account was 15 years old, approaching 2 million karma, never a single warning, no posts or comments ever removed for violating Reddit TOS and a some Zionist fascist pig admin didnt like a pro Palestinian comment and permabanned me

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reported! /joke

But that sucks. 15 years? I don't think I posted anything "political" aside from some LGBTQ stuff. I did poke some fun at some gamers who were butthurt about their game finally including girls. I don't think anything I said was all that controversial, but maybe they reported me for that. Warhammer 40k fans aren't above organized mass reporting from what I've seen on places like YouTube.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I was very political, but everything said and posted was within TOS limits. 3 of my huge subs were abandoned and are now being run by shit mods. They claimed I was inciting violence by saying Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Imagine you are a smoker and the addiction makes it impossible for you to quit. Then one day nobody will sell you a cigarette or let you bum one off them.

Count your blessings and move on.

Reddit Karma ain't worth shit. Imaginary Internet points.

[–] bluebadoo@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We would love a Ted Lasso of Lemmy. Welcome aboard!

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Thanks! I'll still try reaching out to the online friends I had made over there, but I don't think I'll bother with it again aside from that. I'll plan, instead, to find fun communities here for pep talks and stuff. I like cheering people on and have been told I'm good at it.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Luckily I have connected with most of them on Discord. One messaged me just now with the same problem, so she'll probably be incoming. I only ever saw her post about gaming stuff, and nothing that seemed controversial. She's saltier than I am, though. Oooh! Now I want to good cop/bad cop Reddit with her! I know it won't work, but the real hostility are the friends we made along the way.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're still a little small so you may need to make community you wish to see.

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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I got a 7 day ban for saying you haven’t served your life sentence until you are dead, they said that was promoting violence, I decided if they rejected my appeal it could only mean they don’t actually read appeals and I should just leave.

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh . . . wow. I don't think I did anything wrong, but I'm certain whatever I did was worse than that. I'm pretty sure I've said worse things to my favorite dog today (it's okay to have favorites). Plus, that was really f*ing funny. Reminds me of when my friends and I have "stoner thoughts" competitions.

My last winning one was "Whenever you shorten 'convenience store' and call it a 'c-store', you are removing the convenience for the sake of convenience."

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Reddit has been on this trend for a long while. It might be because you posted in a sub that's gotten scoured. It might be because you said a word or set of words that tripped their algorithm. You might have been reported by someone for some reason.

Personally, I'm of the opinion that Reddit actively does not want real users anymore. They just want lurkers and bots. You might have genuinely been banned for no reason whatsoever.

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

. . . [Quietly hides the fact that he is, indeed, a bot]

In all seriousness, though, thank you for that answer.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

I think they want real users because they want to sell their data for LLM training, but that might mean purging accounts that are "too political" to be of use.

[–] Ste41th@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Seriously fuck Reddit, it’s gone to shit

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yup, had this happen on 2 different accounts, both of which were in good standing. Same as you, no given explanation despite the message saying there would be, and no real recourse to appeal despite there being a provided link that simply looped on itself. Eventually, I was able to get a human via the "support team" who gave me the answer "All bans are final.". Your options are to make a new account or stop using their shit platform. Pick your poison.

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I pick bourbon. Oh . . . oh, we were talking about something else. But, yeah, I'm going with quitting the platform. I don't see the use in trying to fight it, and even if I were to 'win', this will probably happen again in another month or so.

Side note: are you a raccoon that likes to debate, or is it debatable that you are a raccoon?

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My skills as a raccoon are debatable

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hmm . . . sounds like something a tricky raccoon would say to get me to let my guard down and . . . damnit, my trashcans!

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Hey, you know what they say. One man's trash is another man's F*CK YOU THIS IS MY APPLE CORE

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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

FYI you likely won't succeed with your alt accounts as they have extensive ways of fingerprinting you outside of basic stuff like your email or IP address.

I was permabanned for "ban evasion" after initially getting banned from /r/movies for talking about piracy and then inadvertently commenting there later on an alt account. I attempted to make a new alt with a VPN active and was banned again almost immediately. This happened to coincide with the great exodus, so I wasn't too sad to just let go of my 10 year old account and settle in here.

[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

They also use device ID. You need a new device that has never interacted with reddit before (with a VPN and different email). They also look at the subs you subscribe to. The amount of info they collect is invasive, fuck 'em.

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I had created an alt in the past where I had asked some legal questions. That was about it, but maybe that tripped things up. Eh, regardless, it seems this place is more inviting. Also, the combination of words in your name might be one of the most comfortable combination of words ever.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

Consider it a nudge in the right direction.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quick let's mainline this person some linux

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is . . . is that why a mysterious penguin suddenly appeared in my living room. Whew. That's a relief. I was worried it was because of the shrooms.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

get some programmer socks so it knows your not a threat

[–] SonnieTheseDays@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Stares down at crocs in horror. I'm doomed by my own hubris!

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[–] loam@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Which LLM are you?

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can only repay them in the same currency: Never give a damn.

Never give a damn about redit karma or anything they do, or promise. Never give a damn about how mods want you to be.

Make a new account in such a way that they cannot detect it, then go on with your life as if nothing happened.

Details: Use a new nickname, new IP address, no real name/age/location, a different app (or browser), a new mailaddress, subscribe a different set of subs (at the beginning). For the future: create your next account(s) before the current one gets banned.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Welcome to reddit dawg. I had an account over 10 years old and another SFW account I was using that was about 5-6 years old. I was on my SFW browsing one day, tried to make a post, and saw that I was blocked, but there was no inbox message yet, so I went on my other account and saw that it had gotten a message about being banned for a comment made months ago, so I tried to appeal it, which was denied. Best I can tell they just banned all of my accounts once the first one got banned, even though I wasn't even aware of the ban in the first place.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

My 13 year old account with 250,000 comment karma was perma-banned without warning for commenting "It's ok to punch Nazis". Since then, maybe 3 years, I've had probably 25-30 Reddit accounts. Pretty easy to create a dummy email account and set up a new Reddit account. I have a browser script that auto adds all my subs back for me if I just copy the link from my old account. I'm usually back up and running in about 10 minutes. But I finally decided to drop the platform after the election because it just isn't worth it anymore.

Mods of individual subs can get you banned site-wide if they don't like you. You can be auto-banned from individual subs if they've detected you commented in other subs they don't like. Their block system is a joke that prevents people from correcting other's misinformation. They banned 3rd party apps. And their co-founder/CEO is a trashcan of a human being.

Reddit is quickly becoming a cesspool. You should just give up on it. The internet is a big place.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I got permabanned for suggesting too many times that we should eat rich people (was joking, obviously.) They also permabanned my wife and her cousin who lived in our basement, I assume because we were on the same wifi? We all appealed and never got any response about it. I don’t really care about my ban, and my wife never posted and neither did her cousin so they didn’t care much, but it’s like bro, that’s not fair that they got banned as well.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

When I say we should eat the rich I'm not joking, I'm just not being literal.

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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I had an account from 2013 with hundreds of thousands of comment and post karma. They banned my account without even telling me why. I filed an appeal and that was a month ago now. Still haven't heard anything back.

I made a new account under a new email with a new Internet connection and a new device. It got banned after 30 minutes. I literally left one positive comment and upvoted a few things.

Reddit and their power tripping admins/mods can suck it.

[–] Eyedust@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

I'm here because reddit is now a useless NFT cash grab and 80% of reddit mods are authoritarian pieces of trash.

You're not missing much. You could even find a mastodon community you like and start spreading your positive messages there.

Welcome to the future. Welcome to the resistance.

[–] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. Reddit is obsessed with banning and censorship to an unhealthy and stupid degree. As someone who thinks social media should be moderated, even I think they go way too far with it.

I’ve had to create a lot of alt accounts because I kept getting banned. I’m not right-wing, I don’t troll people and I don’t use slurs or violent words. You would THINK that would be enough, but no.

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[–] Corno@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't use Reddit, nor do I tend to do so, so take what I say with a pinch of salt!

Reddit is one of those sites that utilizes AI moderation, so if you've been banned without any warning or notice, chances are your ban wasn't even authorized by another human, but instead by a bot. Your IP address can either be static or dynamic, and if you have a dynamic IP address that changes to an IP that is associated with a user who got banned at some point in time, chances are the bot will see you as that other person and assume a ban evasion.

You could try appealing. If that doesn't work, perhaps it's best to shrug it off and try a different social media. Lemmy isn't the biggest website in the world, but it's one of the best social medias I've used and people here are generally helpful and friendly!

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

I just met you and I already love you OP. I’m sorry you got banned from Reddit but I’m glad you’re here.

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