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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I don't like Nazis as much as the next guy, but given a choice between beating up Nazis and getting laid, I think I'd prefer to get laid. Ya know, the whole "Make love not war" philosophy.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 months ago

What if either of you REALLY get off on violence against racist groups?

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't see why we can't do both

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[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nazi or not there's no shot I'd be able to kill people with a crowbar unless they are also actively trying to kill me

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, if you are a minority, they are.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am and you know exactly what i meant.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 20 points 2 months ago (7 children)

You meant that you're more comfortable being killed by a Nazi in a government office signing some paperwork than being killed by a Nazi who uses their own two hands.

Drag doesn't really understand that kind of mindset. Dead is dead. Danger is danger. And treating danger less seriously because it wears a suit and tie will get us all killed.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There’s a scene in game of thrones where the guy goes ‘nothing like a good fuck after a good fight’

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So like 3,5 min for fighting and 3,5 for fucking? I'm almost 40, I can't get it up in 3,5 minutes.

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

Baby steps, citizen. Earn that booty. Top her score or own the bottom. Your choice.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Well if you’re both in there together nobody says you have to leave the room immediately. So both?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

As an AroAce person I'll take beating up nazis >:3

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 43 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So... a room full of fascists against two individuals.

To me, this implies they will either be drugged, to be impaired, or chained. Otherwise, the numbers win.

I'm not a butcher. Criminals are to be dealt as such. Death is too short of sentence to be a punishment.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Death is too short of sentence

It's a crowbar, not a flamethrower. Pick your targets, avoid the head and soft tissue/core areas. Have fun.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You missed the sentence where I declare myself as not being a butcher.

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Criminal law doesn't work on Nazis. They control the courts. Very few non violent options left I'm afraid.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Try this: fascists.

The German National Party is no more.

There is a difference between resorting to force to push down and cull the scum trying to topple the world and resorting to violence like they are, to butcher those they see as worthless, unfit, different.

Force, not violence.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago (15 children)

I only wish in them what they wish on me. Anyone who has an issue with that is enabling fascism.

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they salute like a nazi then they are a nazi. Modeled after the German variety of fascism venerating Hitler etc. Neo-nazi would work I guess, but everything they've been doing is straight out of Hitler's playbook so I feel comfortable using the term nazi.

As for projection of force, you don't really have any to project. Any resistance would need to be very asymmetric in nature ie high value targets using guerilla methods. I think the difference between force and violence is semantic and really only serves as a euphemism. Moreover you need to create a spectacle of violence. Luigi mangione didn't use force.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

That's your prerrogative; I respect that. It won't be small differences like those putting us on opposite corners.

Will I call the act of Mangione as brutal? Yes. But it ended there. The guy did not went on a rampage, after the man's family and others. So, it was a resort to force, not to violence.

We're seeing violence being enacted towards groups and individuals. Mass killings in Gaza, torture, starvation, exposure... that is violence.

Going up against a group, even if well organized, by attacking and eliminating key figures, that's force.

Allow me a more down to earth example: you see an ICE raid mounting. You organize a group of neighbours, hold the cops at gun point, beat the lights out of them, in extremis, a few die, and warn them they are not to come back there.

That's force.

You kill everyone, raid and destroy their station, go after their families and friends, and hit on sight every single agent.

That's violence.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well then you don't have a strong sense of survival or justice. That's ok. You can weave baskets while I do it. Everybody has a place.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And now you are missing the part where I state that I will fight, both for me and others. I refuse to butcher others, like the criminals we are denouncing, not to fight them.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

How is fighting for survival different than butchering people who would butcher you?

Edit: to begin a better world you have to understand that your hands will have to get dirty not by choice but out of necessity to survive. Do you not have a survival instinct?

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It's a crowbar, not a boning knife

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Fascists double down on their fascism in response to punishment. Dead fascists, preferably by natural causes of course, do not.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (5 children)

There seem to be two very different approaches to being anti-nazi - the problem solvers who want to put them down like the vermin they are and move on, and the sociopaths who fantasize about violently acting out all their personal issues, with nazis being socially acceptable targets,

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No reason they shouldn't enjoy their work.

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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Not too different than Fudds in the gun community praying that someone robs them

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[–] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Beating nazis while cosplaying as Gordon Freeman? Where do I sign?

[–] GasMaskedLunatic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dont forget to leave your phone at home.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

Better yet? Lose it in your friend's car before they head off on a road trip. That way, all those modern stresses can be miiiiiles away while you focus on your new happy place for a little while.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

I'd bring my small box cutter, but I think a crowbar would be more effective. That, and I wouldn't wanna waste a perfectly good box cutter on street trash.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Does the soundproofness allow you to do stealth kills? Cuz otherwise, crowbar or not, you're probably gonna get overtaken by a room full of opponents, unless this is also happening in some sort of kung fu movie.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Username checks out. 🤣🤦🏼‍♂️

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

I would take advantage of every second >:3

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Depending on how many people are there I’m not a fan of 2 on X

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Can I bring my own spade, instead?

[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hot psychopath*

see: Anna Kendrick

[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I hope you have a good stamina...

[–] owl@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I believe many people carry with them a deeply buried desire to hurt people, but their morals keep them from doing it to just anyone. But they yearn for a chance to do it without moral repercussions.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

With freebird playing in the background

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

alternatively instead of crowbars what if
+fistfull of dollar
+fistfull of dollar
+ultraricoshot
+parry
+disrespect

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