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[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 month ago (2 children)

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/does-nicotine-affect-muscle-growth

There is data to show nicotine might have a performance increasing effects on people. However, the idea is more that you ingest a safe amount via methods that are not smoking/chewing.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 month ago (1 children)

THAT'S WHY I DRINK A SUGAR-FREE REDBULL WITH EXTRA CREATINE, PROTEIN POWDER, AND PROBIOTICS MIXED IN WHILE CHEWING SEVEN ZYNS BEFORE EVERY 15 MINUTE SET. I NO LONGER SLEEP AND MY HEARTBEATS CANNOT BE DISTINGUISHED. MY LUNGS ARE PERFECT AND MY BODY IS PRISTINE!

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Your heartbeat is measured in Hz

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come to think of it, a normal heart rate would be like 1-3hz depending on activity

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Thanks for clarifying that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Im stealing this for if my brother complains about his heartbeat after staying up for like 18 hours on six cans of red bull again

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Nicotine itself is hardly worse than say caffeine. But obviously the negative effects of burning and inhaling a cigarette (with all that it contains), especially the carcinogenic agents, is absolutely stupid to think it's an even trade to pump your workout

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Oh, nicotine is way worse. It may not harm your health directly, but addictiveness is exponentially worse.

Wikipedia: Caffeine - Dependence and Withdrawal: Moderately physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms may occur upon abstinence, with greater than 100 mg caffeine per day, although these symptoms last no longer than a day

Wikipedia: Nicotine withdrawal: Symptoms are usually strongest for the first few days and then dissipate over 2–4 weeks (...) In a minority of smokers, cravings may persist for years.

Edit: Left out the "Caffeine" in "Caffeine - Dependance and Withdrawal"

Edit to add: Caffeine withdrawal causes you to be annoyed for a day. Nicotine causes real, actual cravings (you know you need nicotine, whereas for caffeine you're just generally "moody" - most people don't feel "i need caffeine, now", and even if you do, chances are, if you run out of coffee and can't get it within less than a day, the "craving" just stops).

For some, many of whom I know, quitting nicotine is downright impossible due to the cravings. For quitting, toning down is key. Those that quit either relapse momentarily in times of stress (usually for about a week or so), or complain of very strong cravings every few weeks/months.

Additionally, nicotine isn't the only addictive compound in cigarettes, and from what I've heard, vaping, gum, etc. just isn't it for some - people also get addicted to cigatettes themselves.

Not to mention, vaping causes pneumothorax and all the other alternatives cause some harm as well, although much less than cigarettes proper.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I smoked cigarettes for four years, then quit for a decade. I was incredibly stressed out and had 2-3 cigarettes for a couple days in a row and now I’m addicted again. I hope I will be able to quit soon, I just have to stop working where I am first, because I need the five minute breaks and don’t get them otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is switching to vaping an option? You'd still be getting the nicotine, but not the smoke/tar

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

As a long time daily coffee drinker, that is definitely not accurate about caffeine withdrawal. Every time I try to quit caffeine I go through multiple weeks of depression and physical weakness symptoms.

And as a former smoker, nicotine is still significantly worse. Never touch the stuff, not even once. For a lot of people, there just is no going back from it. It claims you.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I've heard that but how else is one supposed to get nicotine in the system? Chewing gum? Patches? Vapes? Is it soluble in a substance that's safe to consume?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Nicotine is water soluble. You can take a wet tobacco leaf off the plant and it'll soak into your skin and get you a bit buzzed (or in my case when I discovered this mid harvest if you touch enough it'll get you massively high and nauseous). Imo one of the best ways to get some in relative safety is grow your own, they're really easy, and just put a leaf under your tongue for a bit then spit it out

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its highly highly illegal to grow it in my country unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't let laws stop you from doing harmless shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Unless, of course, your country aggressively enforces that and has extreme penalties.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Part of the problem with using tobacco this way (basically diy dip) is that tobacco leaves themselves contain carcinogenic nitrates that will still have long term health impacts. If you're going to consume nicotine, it's best that your source is as close to chemically pure as you can get. Synthetic nicotine is by and large the safest option outside of simply not consuming nicotine in any form. It's still incredibly addictive and cardiotoxic

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If u aren't already addicted, don't even bother. Nicotine is fucking insane

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nicotine in comparable or larger doses from non-toxic or much less toxic sources is arbitrarily limited for stupid reasons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Profits of tobacco companies isn't a stupid reason when ur a lobbyist for the tobacco companies

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you just smoke two (for the health benefits) you don't even need to work out.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well if I smoke four (for the health benefits), then it's like I worked out twice!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they don't allow it at the casino so I can't smoke while I gamble (for the health benefits)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Army commander says "smoke 'em if you got 'em" right before we enter battle, but I already have (for health benefits).

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Smoking doesn't increase testosterone ... it makes your voice sound like you have more testosterone

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So if I have more testosterone, at one point I'll be coughing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Are you John Wayne?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I once called a friend at home, back before mobile phones were common, only to have some older man answer. Shit, did I call the wrong number? My mind started racing: his mom is divorced and doesn't have a boyfriend from what my friend told. It's unlikely my friend's voice dropped 3 octaves overnight.. Fuck, did somebody murder them and picked up the phone? Am I ne... Oh wait, his mom is a living chimney, ah.. 'Hi *friend's mom*'.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Gotta confuse the lungs babe

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've seen this once before. Addicted and hindered but can't accept it. So they convinced themselves that what they were doing was right

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, this is clearly a bit, but I don't think addicts smoke exactly one cigarette a day. Some people who smoke small amounts never become addicted. I used to smoke, like, half a pack over a few weeks, forget where I left it, and then go months without smoking. Haven't smoked at all in probably eight years now, not because I intentionally quit but just because I couldn't be assed to carry them around any more. (I really only started buying cigs so that I could stop telling people I didn't smoke when they asked to bum one.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you were basically enabling people's addiction?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

What can I say, I aim to please!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Either that, or retarded is fucking him

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Retarded do be fucking a lot of us... Without consent, I might add.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

And no lube either

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yep. Completely retarded.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Smoking cigarettes for health benefits is like messing with an angry bear, so that you can have a jog.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

There is like that one illness where smoking actually helps. I totally forget what it's called though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

What listening to Andy Taytay does to you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The purpose of working out is to look cool......... Now that I've discovered cigarettes that's mission accomplished.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ive seen people talk about how to increase their testosterone level(or avoid decreasing it), but arent there pills with the purpose of increasing it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

my dad has a testosterone gel. because without it he cannot gain hardly any muscle at all, like I worked out for like 2 months and could lift more than he could in over 1+ year of working out 5 days a week.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Dr Gundy follower in the wild.

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