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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, encouraged by Donald Trump’s return to power, hosted Germany’s far-right AfD leader Alice Weidel, calling the party the "future" of Germany.

He aims to unite Europe’s far-right in the EU Parliament and praised AfD’s anti-immigration stance. Weidel, in turn, lauded Hungary as a "role model."

AfD, polling at 21% ahead of Germany’s February 23 election, has gained mainstream recognition, with CDU leader Friedrich Merz breaking precedent by seeking AfD support in parliament.

Orban’s Patriots for Europe bloc seeks further far-right influence in Brussels.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is there a German word for "an endorsement that has a net negative effect"?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Bärendienst", as in "A well meaning action that has unintended negative consequences"?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And literally meaning "bear service", I think? That's hilarious. The most formidable beast of the wilds of Europe, simply a bumbling little guy always making things worse when they try to help

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it's from an 1800 year old Indian fable about a bear who crushes his friend's skull with a rock in an attempt to kill an annoying fly.

many european languages seem to have the expression.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Oooh that's cool, thank you for sharing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I recognized the german as being equivalent to the danish bjørnetjeneste, which also means bear service or slightly more accurately a bear favor.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I'll take it!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole of the EU knows Hungary is our corrupt little member.

This might make some far right wingers realize that fascism is only good for the powerful and wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

ha ha, no, right wingers only realize stuff when they personally are affected and sometimes not even then. See the USA right now.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Nazis praising nazis. In other news today: Water is wet.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What do the nazis thought of central Europeans? This would only be survival instinct to never ally with them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Weren't Nazis also central Europeans?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They thought the same stuff about Jews and Salvic people so, and usually, Germany is considered western Europe

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Germany is typically classified as Western European so no.

Edit: I'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Oh I did not know that. That's fair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I am not sure, they delineated based on race not necessarily nationality, they hated Slavic people but Hungarians are not Slavic.

All in all, Hitler gave back territory lost in WWI to Hungary, so I think they just didn't care.

Fuck Hitler, Szálasi and Horthy with a spiky stick though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's the past of Germany if anything...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

only if you assume their Nazi problem ever went away

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Their Nazis in charge problem went away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol, the AfD is literally in the Bundestag and all state parliaments

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you understand what being in charge means? Because they aren’t.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

there are polls saying they could come in second in the elections this month. and some CDU members planning a coalition. I wouldn't be so optimistic. regardless if they win or not, the mainstream parties have already adopted their Nazi propaganda to win over their base so their goal is already being enacted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I am aware that nothing in human civilization lasts forever apart from xenophobia and bigotry. Stating facts is not optimism. Until they gain power again, they are still Germany's past, not Germany's future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no, you just have a very mainstream liberal view of how power actually works. it's not just party in charge = this is the political course of the country

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

No, I have a "very mainstream liberal view" of how time works. Until something that happens happens again, it's part of the past.

I have no idea how you can read the words, "I am aware that nothing in human civilization lasts forever apart from xenophobia and bigotry" and then try to act like I said the exact opposite. Or did you just not read them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that might change in just under 2 weeks from now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It indeed might. But not for now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Both are the human equivalent of loud wet sharts.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Future for him.

Hopefully not, as he doesn't deserve any future.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

is the german government fighting it in any way or are they going to wait until it’s too late and then cry?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Worse: They try to make them small again by becoming them. Spoiler: It didn't work. The AfD is now stronger then ever and has other parties draged torwards their inhuman propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah, nationalist Germany is exactly what I needed for my 2020’s bingo card.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

what is missing?

just that i can prepare ...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Quoting Zhukov in a thread relating to Hungarian dysfunction, really? Why not see what Pol Pot thought about ophthalmology?

Edit: downvoters may want to educate themselves on what Zhukov was up to in 1956.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They get to learn where the term Tankie comes from!

Edit: also, I think Europe may be mad about the mass rapes, the red army sitting on their asses while the Nazis razed Warsaw, actively preventing East Germany and East Berlin from rebuilding while West Berlin and West Germany thrived, etc more so than the destroying fascism part. Just my two cents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Málenkij Robot memorial, Budapest.

The problem was not the liberation, but that the only thing they changed was which way the wagons with people were leaving the country never to be seen again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately he's probably right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago