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The White House posted a dehumanizing video Tuesday using the sound of detained immigrants being deported with the caption “ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight.”

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 126 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If it wasn't apparent, they would mock the trains leading to Auschwitz. How far will the media let this go? Evidence so far seems to show that the billionaires who run it all view this as a great distraction for their get rich quick scheme. Capitalism is a disease.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How far will the media let this go?

However long they keep getting the next paycheck. The American propaganda mill needs billionaire sponsors to grind onwards. Once the Mercers and Adelsons and Kochs stop shoving money into the Wingnut Wurlitzer, it'll shut down. But not a minute beforehand.

Capitalism is a disease.

Sure. But this is tangential to capitalism. Rainbow Capitalism worked just fine for US businesses for decades. DEI/Tokenism/Identity Politics as a deflection from class conflict worked just fine. Homogenization of culture under a neutral Brad Paisley-and-LL Cooljay-singing-Accidental-Racist motif worked just fine.

It worked because advertisers recognized a profit motive in pandering to a broad international audience and saw a ROI predicated on maximizing distribution.

What we have now is a shrinking demographic of buyers and a SaaS B2B corporate aristocracy deciding what generates revenue. We're not trying to sell Captain America movies in China and iPads to Brazil anymore. We're trying to sell Groypers to Elon Musk so he can make Groyper Swag a requirement for joining his constellation of companies.

One Trillionaire's politics is worth a million millionaire's. If Musk was a fruity girl boss lib instead of an Apartheidist Refugee, things would be different.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What I don't get is what do the rich plan to do when Trump destroys the economy? If the USD is worthless, they aren't rich anymore.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago

No? They don't hoard dollars, they hoard deeds if anything. Should the bottom fall out of the American Market, they'll just pack it up and go to China or Russia or Europe. Their holdings won't lose value over time, and anything short of super steep taxes on unrealized gains or nationalization won't really affect them.

Those won't happen because it'll catch up the petty bourgeoise in the thresher, and common Americans won't stand for that.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can convert that money into control/ownership over land and people.

If the economy is broken for everyone else, but you control the survival of people (through destroying or blocking labor laws, wage protections, public insurance, and eventually distribution of food and water, etc) and the space around those people (land, property), that control will outlast the economy and potentially the government. That's because they can afford their own monopoly on violence in a given domain, if the state's monopoly falls apart.

We're not quite there yet, but fiefdoms could yet come back in style.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Except they don't have money they have stocks. And if the market crashes what do they have.

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Guillotines.

Also read this cool blog post i just read which talks about the endless cycle of wealth hoarding followed by collapse that is inherent to capitalism in its current state https://pluralistic.net/2025/02/18/pikettys-productivity/

[–] idealotus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is a very good article outlining why we are where we are and what Europe can do to avoid this same fate.

TL;DR: Because investing drives more growth than labor, the rich get richer until we end up with wars and fighting. Without fixing that investment vs labor growth gap, this cycle continues.

Cory Doctorows blog (the one i linked to) is a gem that i can wholeheartedly recommend :)

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Solidarity. Organizing nonviolent protests, sit-ins, strikes. Putting our bodies on the line; risking arrest. Eventually, property violence and…

Fascism won’t respond to logic and reason. It has to see that these actions aren’t palatable to the general public. Use the Civil Rights movement as a guide.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

What do you expect the media to do? Their job is to report on the news.

[–] leftzero 19 points 1 month ago

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
'Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!' cries she
With silent lips. 'Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is peak neo-fascist dystopia and it reveals the true nature of anti-immigration policy of humiliation and alienation.

The human rights and dignity violations, be it done with chains and cameras or with campaigns and administrative hearings - share the same hateful roots.

Don't let this shift the overton window such that "civil immigration measures" become acceptable - push back on it now before it becomes the new normal.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Don't feed the beast.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

American freedom is so pure and abundant we could share it. But, The rich are so greedy and powerful they have decided we shouldn’t.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Our government has made us a fucking embarrassment on a global scale. I'm literally ashamed to be an American.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I’m literally ashamed to be an American. Is that what it took for you? Not the rest of USA history?

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Damn. So despicable, enforcing the laws of the land and deporting illegal immigrants! How do they sleep at night? /s

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Sticking people in a concentration camp in Guantanamo Bay is not deporting them.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago

You shit heads are always just looking for permission to enjoy and inflict suffering.

But whenever you violate a rule / law / social etiquette and are facing the consequences it's all crying and tears and hysteria for poor ol you.

You are all little boys too emotionally and intellectually stunted to ever be men.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hi, friend. Lemmy is diverse, so I understand if English isn't your first language. The adjective, "despicable," in the title is affecting the word, "video," not the word, "deported."

While deportations are obviously not inherently immoral, this article is drawing attention to how the White House posted a video, which depicts our fellow human beings who are likely being separated from their families, as an attempt to amuse their base with what they think is humorous. I'm sure we can both agree this is despicable.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

People literally voted for this, I don't think they find it amusing. If anything, they expected it.

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

The chatter I hear around the office would disagree. People got what they voted for, are elated, and laughing.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah but if they didn't post it with the word 'despicable' , how would they know to react to the emotional blackmail?

[–] Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org 1 points 1 month ago

Follow the law of the land ten and pack your things motherfucker.

[–] nomoredrama@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

They weren't immigrants. Immigrants have paperwork, that they applied for, before entering the country. Legally. It's not despicable to require people to immigrate using legal processes.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

the despicable thing they referenced was posting a video mocking their cries and terror as asmr you fuck.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 14 points 1 month ago
  1. Lengthy Backlogs and Delays: Immigration courts and agencies face massive backlogs, with nearly 2.8 million cases pending as of FY 2023. Processing times for visas, work permits, and green cards can take years or even decades, leaving applicants in prolonged uncertainty[1][5].

  2. Restrictive Policies: U.S. immigration laws are highly restrictive, limiting opportunities for many would-be immigrants. For example, applicants often need an American sponsor and must navigate strict quotas that exclude many based on education or skills[2][7].

  3. Lack of Modernization: Immigration laws have not been updated to address current realities, such as the prevalence of visa overstays rather than border crossings. This leaves no clear path for many undocumented individuals to adjust their status legally[2][6].

  4. Economic Pressures: Delays in work authorization lock out immigrants from jobs despite labor shortages in the U.S., creating incentives for individuals to bypass legal processes to meet economic needs[1][8].

Citations: [1] Mounting Backlogs Undermine U.S. Immigration System and ... https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/us-immigration-backlogs-mounting-undermine-biden [2] Immigration | Pros, Cons, Debate, Arguments, Illegal ... - Britannica https://www.britannica.com/procon/immigration-debate [3] Misguided Laken Riley Act Does Nothing to Fix the Problems That ... https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/news/misguided-laken-riley-act-fails-to-fix-broken-immigration-system [4] Why Is Illegal Immigration Bad? https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/whats-wrong-illegal-immigration [5] The U.S. Immigration Debate | Council on Foreign Relations https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-immigration-debate-0 [6] Illegal immigration to the United States - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States [7] Why Legal Immigration Is Nearly Impossible | Cato Institute https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/why-legal-immigration-nearly-impossible [8] Why the Legal Immigration System Is Broken: A Short List of Problems https://www.cato.org/blog/why-legal-immigration-system-broken-short-list-problems

[–] Malek061@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So these people are subhuman to you? Gotta have paperwork to be a person? Sounds like a nazi. My grandparents told me what to do with nazis.

[–] nomoredrama@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They're not sub-human. But they are circumventing the system, which prevents real people from coming. I'm also mature enough to realize we can't save the whole world. The third world creates children -much- faster than the West could -ever- assimilate them. How much money do -you- donate each month, to birth control in third world countries?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But they are circumventing the system, which prevents real people from coming.

Our country had no system for longer than it's had one, worked just fine back then

Maybe the system is the fuckin problem

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Why does the West have to 'assimilate' them? Why can't the cultures merge?

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Based on how you say it they are sub-human. What do you mean make way for real people. Are those that are here already not real people.

[–] onecarmel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The world creates way more than enough food per for the entire population, so yes, we can save the whole world. However, that would mean that the line does not go up, who will think of the shareholders? You are... I'll remember you when push comes to shove, so be happy you're ^paritally^ anonymous on here.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Illegal immigrants are still immigrants dumbass

[–] nomoredrama@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They waste resources, money, and prevent other people from coming legally. I care about the honest people who apply. Criminals can go to jail, sure, I see no problem with that. If someone stole your car, you want them in jail. If someone steals a few thousand dollars a month, living in a nice hotel in New York, on my money, yes, I want that person arrested.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

They waste resources, money

Lol, how? You mean the government wastes money trying to find/remove these people? Maybe the government should stop wasting them?

If someone steals a few thousand dollars a month, living in a nice hotel in New York, on my money, yes, I want that person arrested.

Oh, look, you're mad at the president but want to blame checks notes brown people. Racist

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

That isn't really happening at a scale you need to be worried about. They are net contributors to your economy and commit crimes at lower rates.

The only down side is some wage suppression in low-skilled areas like picking fruit.

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You're being deliberately obtuse, but for other readers: the official Whitehouse Twitter account posted a video of deportations with the caption “ASMR: Illegal Alien Deportation Flight.” Regardless of whether you support deportation plans or not, the caption is undignified and childish, unbecoming of speech from an official government office. Regardless of anything, you should understand that making light of a person's life being uprooted is demonstrative of a callous disregard for humanity. In other words, this is despicable.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What a great and despicable crime they've committed, to exist without the proper paperwork. How unacceptable it is that they failed to renew their visas, truly they deserve imprisonment without due process in Guantanamo Bay, where they can be abused like the scum they are without the pesky bleeding hearts demanding consequences. You are a truly moral and good person, and your strong words will surely be rewarded with low grocery prices.

/s

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

If you're going to challenge the definition of such words, perhaps you should know the difference between 'immigrate' and 'emigrate.'

[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Nice try. The Uk did that like a week ago.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

But if they are illegal inmigrants, what are they supposed to do? Wouldn't that be a gross non compliance of their duties if they allow them be?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

These illegal immigrants pay more in taxes than our President. They also commit less crime, provide valuable skills, and often work jobs no one else will. Not to mention they have families in the US that they are ripped from so conservatives can feel that sick satisfaction that they can oppress people because they are brown.