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[–] [email protected] 117 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, she's a bad owner for not taking into account the specific needs of her apex predator; like a lot of physical activity and access to a fresh Weyland-Yutani crew on a regular basis.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

Yep. Exercise, discipline, then affection. In that order.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That's how I see pitbull owners

[–] [email protected] 114 points 4 weeks ago

Congrats you cracked the joke!

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

I'm not an owner I'm but someone with a lot of friends that own pitbulls. Pitbulls aren't some magically special, dangerous breed that is prone to random acts of violence.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (25 children)

Any dog can snap. So why do we see proportionally more news stories about it happening with a pitbull...?

EDIT 2: So. Many. Downvotes. But not a single comment refuting the statistics with facts and evidence... You're not flat-earthers, right? So don't act like them. Use your brain, not your feeeelings! I love dogs. All dogs. And yeah, if my dog was a Pittie, I would be defensive too, but I would also be honest that people need to take extra precautions...

EDIT: You're literally arguing against facts.

https://www.xinsurance.com/blog/dog-breeds-most-likely-to-bite/#%3A%7E%3Atext=1.%2Csevere+injuries+than+other+dogs.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because if a pitbull snaps, someone is likely to die.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Right which is why they should stop being bred. They are more dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Dogs should stop being bred for certain features period. Beyond aggressiveness, it's just cruel. It gives them years of health problems. Some of the breeds all have the exact same health problem (sometimes it's an inability to breathe properly because of their head shape).

Purebred dogs should be illegal to intentionally breed.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Thank you. This was so obviously my point...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because their stereotype can attract shitty owners who want a badass dog but can't be assed to train or care for them.

Or they literally abuse, possibly even with dogfights, and abandon them.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Occam's Razor: They are known for being more dangerous because they are more dangerous.

EDIT: So. Many. Downvotes. But not a single comment refuting the statistics with facts and evidence... You're not flat-earthers, right? So don't act like them. Use your brain, not your feeeelings! I love dogs. All dogs. And yeah, if my dog was a Pittie, I would be defensive too, but I would also be honest that people need to take extra precautions...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Abuse and mistreatment can play a large role in a dog’s aggression, and pit bulls are often subjected to such conditions. In situations like this, dogs learn to be aggressive and will bite humans as a result. However, studies have shown that pit bulls’ aggression is largely due to their living conditions, and they aren’t necessarily naturally dangerous dogs

While many pit bulls can be held responsible for dog bites, it’s also worth noting that their reputation makes people quick to blame the breed. Other dog breeds have similar physical features as pit bulls, so people assume that’s what they are.

From the very article you linked in the other comment.

Don't talk facts when your source refutes your claim.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

Because most people can't identify one and use it for any mid size dog.

See: Rottweiler, doberman in previous years.

Edit: that includes cops. Same thing applies to police reports. Guess what insurance adjustors use as part of determining insurance rates?

That isn't the slam dunk of info you think it is.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

'Pit bull' doesn't even have a real definition. It's sometimes considered a breed or sometimes a family or class and may include more than a dozen different breeds and their mutts depending on who is counting.

Both the CDC and AVMA say there is no sufficiently reliable source for breed data related to dog attacks.

DogsBite.org literally states their objective is convincing people pit bulls are dangerous and claims they can reliably ID a breed from a photograph.

So go pound sand with that 'facts' horseshit.

Even if we wanted to ignore those problems and take it seriously as a source, it completely neglects the only relevant question of the proportion of dogs within a breed that attack. Without reliable information about the sizes of the populations of included breeds, the chart is useless.

Real research on this exists.

CONCLUSION Maulings by dogs can cause terrible injuries47 and death—and it is natural for those dealing with the victims to seek to address the immediate causes. However as Duffy et al (2008) wrote of their survey based data: “The substantial within-breed variation…suggests that it is inappropriate to make predictions about a given dog’s propensity for aggressive behavior based solely on its breed.” While breed is a factor, the impact of other factors relating to the individual animal (such as training method, sex and neutering status), the target (e.g. owner versus stranger), and the context in which the dog is kept (e.g. urban versus rural) prevent breed from having significant predictive value in its own right. Also the nature of a breed has been shown to vary across time, geographically, and according to breed subtypes such as those raised for conformation showing versus field trials.37 Given that breed is a poor sole predictor of aggressiveness and pit bull-type dogs are not implicated in controlled studies it is difficult to support the targeting of this breed as a basis for dog bite prevention. If breeds are to be targeted a cluster of large breeds would be implicated including the German shepherd and shepherd crosses and other breeds that vary by location.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Do any of them meet the classic stereotype when it comes to like licking infants’ faces n stuff? No offense to your buddies of course!

The trope would be something like:

MY loving family pet (ADescendantOfWolvesWithABiteForceOf230PoundsPerSquareInch) would never hurt a fly

(Of course it’s just a different risk tolerance like we all have with all kinds of things)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Even if they were psychologically identical to every other dog, they still have bodies that were specifically engineered to fuck up human beings. When a lap dog freaks out, you get a boo boo. If that lap dog had a pit bull's body, you might be dead.

Sorry you feel personally attacked when someone says pitbulls are dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

As someone whos dog got killed by a pitbull and i got injured trying to save her a very pleasant you can suck my big sweaty cock to all pitbull owners. Without a license and training you shouldnt be able to own a dog that is meant for killing. Ever since that every time i see a big dog the first thing i think of is if it attacks me how can i kill that fucker. So yeah i dont give a fuck and even before that happened i supported the ban of those dogs because multiple times ive heard from distant family and friends horror stories about attacks. I know a girl who was 8 when she was attacked and she needed plastic surgery all over her thigh and face after an attack and my sister and mom(whos thankfully a doctor so she could help before the ambulance arrived) were there to witness it. I dont think you wanting to own a big dog is a reason to endager others health and lives. Anyone supporting the right to own one of those killing machines is off the rails. They are literally bread to kill.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The Venn diagram of people who own pit bulls and people that own lifted trucks that they can’t drive is almost a circle.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I think its a pretty vicious cycle.

  • Assholes think big dog is cool.
  • Assholes raise asshole dog.
  • Dog becomes known as dangerous and even more popular with assholes while people who would make good owners now steer clear.
  • Repeat.
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Those of us who have adopted and loved pitbulls for their entire doggie lives know that pitties aren't inherently violent. People who have been victimized as a result of people's mistreatment of these very powerful dogs don't know that.

Liberal Portland, Oregon is filled with pitbulls, but it is not filled with lifted trucks. The city is just aware of how great they can be when you don't abuse them into being bad citizens.

My pit died last year at old age from cancer. He was a sweetie who never did anything violent. We have a puppy now (corgi mix, hilarious clown of a dog), but I still miss my lunkhead every day. There's something different about them and the way they need to cuddle at every moment of the day.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

As a gun owner the idea that people are ok with pitbulls but have a problem with me pisses me off. For anything bad to happen with a gun requires human agency. I actually have the capacity to know I'm not going to harm an innocent person today. But a pitbull, their owners are openly playing a lottery. Every time you walk out side with it its like me muzzle sweeping everyone in my community with my finger on a trigger saying "I've done it lots of times and nothing bad has happened. It didn't hurt you this time so mind your own business. My choices don't effect you. It's not my fault if your kids are scared of me pointing my gun around. My kids aren't going to get hurt in my home if I practice poor gun safety. See, they love playing with it. That's proof it's kid friendly"

As dangerous as a gun and with less certain human control over it is not acceptable. I'll straight up say it. I feel as uncomfortable around a pitbull owner as someone mishandling a gun. And in the gun world if someone is willfully and blazenly mishandling a firearm to the point of endangering people you have a license to shoot them if they aren't responsive to someone telling them to stop (non-lethally ideally).

I don't know about licenses but if you own a pitbull people should openly tell you you are the asshole that you are.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

It's only legal to make an attack dog if the cops own the dog.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

If we did domesticate xenomorphs, we'd have to make artificial "hosts" for the facehuggers to implant an egg in. Since the xenos apparently incorporate some DNA from the host, we could even make custom ones!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Alien 3 already has one that came from an ox (or dog depending on which cut of the movie) so at least it doesn't need to be from people. Honestly aside from that they don't really get into the interesting DNA combination stuff too much. Could be cool for one that's like a breed of dog all specialized and whatnot.

Now I'm curious if a Chihuahua alien would be more aggressive than a regular Chihuahua or not

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Don't know much about this, but some experts have this to say on Pitbulls: https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/pets/are-pit-bulls-dangerous-experts-set-the-record-straight-on-these-lovable-dogs/ar-AA1nG7F5

Out of curiosity, I tried looking up info on the attack/fatality rate of pitbulls outside of the USA (assuming Pitbulls are dangerous because the culture of the USA views them as such and this they are raised to be) but couldn't find much.

The only one I found quickly was that they gave a high incidence of attacks in Japan as well, but the owners tend to be Yakuza or other gang members, so yeaaahhh...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

People calling for the culling of all pit bulls would be hypocritical if they don't also call for the culling of all German Shepherds. It's a difference in attack rate of 21% for pit bulls and 18% for German shepherds so pretty close in "danger" (https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/dog-attack-statistics-breed/)

I doubt they would though as I believe most just have a bias against pitties.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

German shepherds shouldn't be bred at all. They have genetic defects that make them suspect to certain illnesses, such as hip defects. Don't buy them. They will suffer and you will have an expensive vet bill.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 weeks ago

I'm an owner of a rescue dog with behavioral problems, and I am fortunate to say that the only person my dog has ever bitten after I adopter her is me. It takes a lot of work and effort, and I am absolutely certain she would bite other people under the right circumstances. Problem is, most dog owners are not like me.

Granted my rescue dog is a small Chihuahua mix, so at worse, she might break skin on your finger or heels and leave a small scar.

Very different circumstances than if she were a big dog.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago

In b4 shitbull lover rage

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago

Happiness is a warm ~~gun~~ face hug!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So you do blame the breed then? Are you stupid?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, that's the whole point. It's dumb to allow people to own dangerous animals. Same reason we don't let people keep hyenas in their backyard.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

So does this apply only to pittbulls or does it apply to rottweilers, dobermans, huskies, chows, presa canario, bull mastiffs, dalmations, german shepherds, malanois, labs, and any other breed that is large enough to hurt you and also "known" to be aggressive (as in "some people have bred some of them to be fighting, security, or police dogs sometimes, or some have been reported for biting when small dogs wouldn't be")?

https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/are-pitbulls-dangerous/

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I love pitbulls. Some of the sweetest dogs I have ever had the pleasure of interacting with were pitbulls. I have only ever been aggressively attacked and bitten by small poorly trained yipyip dogs.

I have been bitten by bigger breed by accidentally stepping on their foot or tail, but I can't hold those dogs responsible for my mistake and their evolutionary response.

I have been around big dogs for most of my life. One thing I will tell you is that any dog will let go of any bite if you shove a finger up it's ass. I have helped some neighbors who had wolf dogs latched onto their arm get released with the ol finger up the ass trick.

Stay safe out there.

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