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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't worry, one responsible billionaire will step in and put things right.

Anyone else have fantasies where aliens hover over the whitehouse?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Pictured here sending down good ideas

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

can i get linguine with my thoughts please and godbless

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

feeling the energies, and good vibes

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember reading something once, that the reason so many people didn't believe in the threat of Global Warming was because there have been so many other threats they heard about that didn't come to be.

Except, they didn't just, not happen.

Overpopulation? Mass starvation? Scientists dedicated their lives to increasing agricultural production.

Y2K? Computer scientists put more man hours than some factories did during WWII to eliminate the potential bugs.

Hole in the Ozone? We eliminated the chemicals causing that particular one.

But none of that work was in the public eye for 99.9% of people. So, their lives went on as if there was never any threat. Thus, people slowly got it into their heads, consciously or not, that all predictions of destructions wrecking our way of life were bullshit.

This is the (exclusively) political version of that. Most Americans have lived in a largely functioning democracy for so long they don't really comprehend that it's possible for America to not be as it is. Sure, plenty of people wring their hands about encroaching authoritarianism, but they don't see America just turning into a state where voting and free speech don't exist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think this is strictly accurate. The 20th century was rife with problems we failed to address (in part or in total).

  • Lead and Asbestos were rolled out despite their known hazards and were never properly cleaned up
  • Our nuclear weapons stockpile is as big a threat as its ever been. We never really solved the problem of nuclear waste disposal, either, so we've just got these cesspools congealing in spots around the country.
  • Aggressive industrial agriculture has drained a number of major aquifiers, while industrial fishing and ocean dumping has obliterating the native marine population
  • Oil spills plague us to this day, utterly despoiling major riverways and polluting the Gulf of ~~Mexico~~ America at record rates.
  • De-industrialization has stripped much of the Midwestern interior of economic activity, plunging the region into poverty
  • The Oxycontin/Heroin/Fentanyl epidemic only gets worse with every passing decade and the only response we seem capable of initiating is "more cops!"

What we've seen over the last 40 years hasn't been a steady series of policy wins nearly so much as a consolidation of media into the hands of a small corporately controlled cartel. It isn't that computer bugs and food shortfalls and environmental catastrophes and even outright genocides aren't happening. Its just that we've decided to stop talking about each of them in turn, as the public loses control of its independent information streams.

Most Americans have lived in a largely functioning democracy for so long they don’t really comprehend that it’s possible for America to not be as it is.

Point to the decade in which America had a "largely functioning democracy".

Was it during the 60s, when it was open season on civil rights leaders and populist presidents? Was it the 70s, when the Nixonian War on Crime/Drugs stripped millions of Americans from the voting rolls through felony disenfranchisement? Was it the Reagan Era, of brutal police violence and race riots and MOVE bombings and the FBI/CIA in open war with anyone to the left of Tip O'Neale? Was it Clinton's 90s and the disaster capitalism that forced a wildly unpopular series of international trade deals with the intent of dismantling trade unions? Was it the Bush War On Terror, with its blacksites and misinformation campaigns and endless wars? How about Obama's bank bailouts followed by the GOP spearheaded 2010 gerrymanders that packed and cracked state and federal legislatures nationwide?

Where's this democracy I keep hearing all about? I'm 40 years old and I struggle to point to a moment in my life when this country ever felt like more than a White Dude's Caliphate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. If I may recommend a book, the violence of organized forgetting by henry giroax critiques this disinformation machine which has normalized even the worst disasters, atrocities, and social injustices perpetrated by this country especially by laundering it via campaigns like the war on terror. Really compelling read, I can't do it justice here.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you pretend for a second this is a HoI4-like historical simulation, it'd be really interesting to see what the american dictatorship is going be like. Are we talking populist murder-happy forever-revolution? Shut-the-fuck-up-or-else secret police state? A digital surveillance state with never seen before levels of control? The suspense!

Alas, we live on this planet. Bummer.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

More of what already works. Keep the masses busy with Disney, Fox, and fast food. Divide the population with wedge issues like abortion, LGBT, guns, etc. Give outsized presence to Trump‘s topics in corporate media. Consolidate media ownership further. Go hard on nationalist and imperialist rhetoric (MAGA). Wave the flag and cross. Blame immigrants. Blame foreigners. Stoke racial tensions. All the while make shitloads of money by manipulating the market and cutting regulation. Run elections but make sure democrats always lose. Depoliticize the population. Start a war. Spread so much crap information that people tune out. Privatize everything, empower billionaires.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Starting to become time for people to understand that there's not going to be a democratic way to fix this. Sometimes you need that tree of Liberty refreshed. We should be talking about Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly yeah, civil war 2025 baby!!! There's already AltGov organizations popping out... We need to organize better, to learn from Hong Kong and its residents.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Unlike Hong Kong, we don't have the CIA backing us and the US is not afraid of how other countries perceive its treatment of its citizens.

Nearly any non-color revolution and failed revolution in the last 2 decades is better to learn from.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A country that's known for pillaging/genociding the native, using slavery and ravaging other countries for profit is now pillaging the one's they convinced are living in the "greatest country in the world".

shocked_pikachu_face.jpg. -People in the US

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

Fascism is imperialism turned inward, etc.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

My blackest blackpill moment in my adult life was the realization that we ALL hold a strange little belief somewhere in the back of our minds that someone, somewhere is serious enough that they will step in if our life or the whole world starts to go off the rails.

We hold this belief, this feeling about more than politics, we think this way about our whole lives. We always carry an unconscious sensation of sorts that there's some safety net that will catch us if we screw up too badly. That if the world gets too chaotic the "army" or someone is going to deploy and restore order.

Then there's the people who have projected this feeling into superstition and conspiracy and believe aliens are watching us, or that lizard people are actually in control, that there's some shadowy cabal of people with all the real power who are pulling all the strings and everything is going according to their plan even if it doesn't look like it. It's funny how that sounds exactly like religion if you change the characters around.

But truly, finally, realistically internalizing that there is nobody coming, that you are utterly alone, even if you have people close to you, that NOBODY is going to help you in the worst case, that NOBODY is going to lock the country down and restore order, that NOBODY will give you fair hearing and let you plead your special case if your life falls down too far, that God isn't there, there are no angels or demons, there is no cabal. Everyone is dumb. Everyone is insecure and looking at each other for acceptance and cues what to do. We're all children.... this is a painful thing to accept and understand but it's massively liberating. It's like jumping out of an airplane without a parachute and there's no ground. It's weightless falling through the cosmos.

But it's your fall. Yours alone.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You feel this way because you've been intentionally individualized.

There is strength in community, but community threatens the capitalist class so they've done everything they possibly could to drive wedges between us.

You're absolutely right that nobody is coming to save us. That means it's up to us to save each other. It's not too late.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The biggest and most truthful conspiracy is not that there's some shadowy cabal puppet masters pulling all the string, but nobody has any fucking clue what's going on and the world lives in a constant state of anarchy and our notions of "government" or "the state" is just a coping mechanism to help us believe that "somone is in control." We feel like we need to believe in it like we used to believe in the church, until the Enlightenment of course (and we all know what that entailed.)

PS Edit - Give people bread and they will realize they hold all the power, and won't need that sense of someone else being in control.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Decades ago I walked out of a play and had the very blackest black pill moment you describe… I was shuddering in an alleyway in a large city, weeping uncontrollably. We walk around thinking… surely there is someone who can solve it. Solve this problem or that puzzle. And then for the big issues that plague humanity, you realize… if there was such a person, they would have done this. And then the abyss opens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Shit I try not to think about for $1200, Alex!

(But I can't disagree with a word.)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

cHeCkS aNd BaLaNcEs

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

the issue with our current system is that it requires those with the power to cede some of the tools that help them in power in order to fix it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

When they don't cede it we take it. There's hundreds of millions of us and only a handful of them.

https://generalstrikeus.com

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I do hold some hope that the Joint Cheifs have a "fuckin NO!" Line they wont cross. Like invading Canada.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah those fuckin NO guys were likely the ones trump fired though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Even then, theres an old saying about how people who know they arent doing the right thing having a line they wont cross, but true belivers being caipable of anything because they believe they are RIGHT.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think everyone has a “fuckin NO! Line”, but for some people it’s just when they personally start to suffer.

What baffles me is that it takes them personally suffering to realize what was plainly obvious to every non-MAGA adult. You vote for the guy who said he would cut support programs you depend on and impose sweeping tariffs despite every economist predicting what would happen, basic necessities suddenly become unaffordable for you, and then it’s surprised Pikachu.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If we got rid of the unconstitutional "executive order" system, this couldn't happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Executive Orders aren't unconstitutional on their own.

The president can do meaningless gestures in an Executive Order, like declare a happy birthday to a foreign head of state or something, and that's not unconstitutional.

The president can also exercise the inherent constitutional powers of the office through executive order, too: grant a military medal to somebody, tell executive branch employees that they have Christmas Eve off, provide for a system of classifying state secrets, etc. Those might have real effects, but so long as it's the exercise of power that the presidency actually has, there's nothing unconstitutional about that.

Then the president can also exercise the powers given by Congress: tell the EPA to start a rulemaking process, declare a public health emergency and invoke some of the powers under the procedures previously defined by Congress, etc. If the powers involved were granted by Congress, and the power itself was not unconstitutional, then there's no problem there.

The big issue is that a lot of people misunderstand when an executive order is performative and has no legal effect, or when an executive order merely directs an agency to do something with legal effect. That agency's actions need to be evaluated for legality, but the executive order itself does nothing, except communicates the president's preferences to that agency in a public way. The president could just as easily call up that agency head by phone and say the same thing, and wouldn't even need to publish that order.

It's not the procedure that's unconstitutional. It's the actual contents and substance of the orders that are probably illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m just praying for “natural causes” to make things better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I never thought I'd be a cheerleader for arteriosclerosis, but here we are!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are you being coy at Lemmy? Aren’t we safe here to speak freely?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren't there supposed to be a whole bunch of 18-25 year olds who don't have children or long term careers yet?

That's why old people send them to war, they're the expendable adults! (/s)

TBH though, it is a little weird I have no idea what that crowd is up to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this boomer for real chat?!

Anyway, this 30 lbs of Ramen is about to disappear!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ukraine flattening the Kremlin woukd go a long way towards rectifying much of this. The Oligarchy has become heavily invested Ukraine losing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not waiting for the adult, I'm waiting for the bath salt Florida man.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah one thing I've observed is Americans constantly complaining that Democrats aren't doing anything. There's a belief that the opposition party can somehow stop a party that controls all branches of government.

They can't. They no longer have power. Anything they do is completely performative. You're complaining about a performance in a meaningless play while the people in power are dismantling your country and destroying people's lives.

This is what Americans voted for. Didn't think their vote mattered but it really did.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Republicans had no problem stopping the show when they were the minority party in all branches.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When Democrats have power they can't do anything, when Republicans are in power everything they want done gets passed by Democrats.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Read up on the history of Latin America to see where we're headed. There are a couple different possibilities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

The USA/CIA will infiltrate your gov/various militia groups to over throw socialist governments democratically elected? What?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, there’s always the next President

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume we get more free elections.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm so sick of people spouting this, it's defeatist and is essentially saying "i lost, oh well, time to give up."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I'm sorry you feel that way. I welcome your mockery if we have something resembling a normal 2026 midterm and 2028 general.

I'm a little surprised so many folks don't seem to realize we have crossed a threshold that may indeed spell the end of the US as we have known it up to now, and seem to think this was just another election. But, I guess for folks who haven't witnessed that many of our elections in their lifetime it might seem that way.

If more people did realize that, I'd have a lot more faith that we're going to be able to stop it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's more "it's time to try something else."

I don't know who else needs to hear this, but electoralism is over in the United States. These people have stopped playing by any rules.

This is in our hands now. Nobody's coming to the rescue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Christ some of you people are so smug. The people confidently saying "we won't have any more elections" never follow it up with any inspiration or call to actions. It reeks very much of "Genocide Joe" "Both sides are the same so why even bother" "All politicians are crooks apathy that's fucked America over.

Voting was never going to solve it, voting is the absolute bare minimum you can do. "These people" wrote the rules 70 years ago, we lost the class war and it's only becoming apparent now. I don't know who needs to hear this but posting online isn't going to do anything, it's just going to leave a record for Elon to scrape when he assigns your social score.

I agree with you that it's in our hands now, nobody is coming to help us. If you're not a white christian male, now is the time, before it's too late. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. Their little coup was successful and if they don't want to give up power they won't.

Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Get a gun (or two) and learn how to use them.

https://www.dsausa.org/

https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/

https://socialistra.org/

https://generalstrikeus.com/

https://afsc.org/news/how-create-mutual-aid-network

https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/raids/

https://mutualaidhub.org/

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

... until there isn't

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