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Google has become so integral to online navigation that its name became a verb, meaning "to find things on the Internet." Soon, Google might just tell you what's on the Internet instead of showing you. The company has announced an expansion of its AI search features, powered by Gemini 2.0. Everyone will soon see more AI Overviews at the top of the results page, but Google is also testing a more substantial change in the form of AI Mode. This version of Google won't show you the 10 blue links at all—Gemini completely takes over the results in AI Mode.

This marks the debut of Gemini 2.0 in Google search. Google announced the first Gemini 2.0 models in December 2024, beginning with the streamlined Gemini 2.0 Flash. The heavier versions of Gemini 2.0 are still in testing, but Google says it has tuned AI Overviews with this model to offer help with harder questions in the areas of math, coding, and multimodal queries.

With this update, you will begin seeing AI Overviews on more results pages, and minors with Google accounts will see AI results for the first time. In fact, even logged out users will see AI Overviews soon. This is a big change, but it's only the start of Google's plans for AI search.

Gemini 2.0 also powers the new AI Mode for search. It's launching as an opt-in feature via Google's Search Labs, offering a totally new alternative to search as we know it. This custom version of the Gemini large language model (LLM) skips the standard web links that have been part of every Google search thus far.

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[–] [email protected] 208 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

Does EVERY axis in life have to be fucked up at the same time?

Can we have one thing that is just doing ok?

Government - fucked.

Education - fucked.

Healthcare - fucked.

Environment - fucked.

Housing - fucked.

Societal and Social Cohesion - fucked.

Wealth Inequality - fucked.

Personal Technological Autonomy - fucked, and under continuous attack.

Technological Enshittification - Running like gangbusters. So really - fucked.

Damn, someone give me some kind of ladder to climb out of this pit of despair.

[–] [email protected] 158 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Every single one of these flows from wealth inequality.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago

Excellent point!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They also flow from corruption (regulatory capture/failure to enforce anti-trust and other consumer-protection law). It's hard to say whether that is itself a cause or result of wealth inequality, though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Nintendo, when chasing developers of emulators and modders, uses regulatory mechanisms. IP is such a mechanism initially. Intended to protect the little guy from big bad corporations.

It’s hard to say whether that is itself a cause or result of wealth inequality, though.

It's both of course. Only time flows in one direction and never the other.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The ladder has been privatized.

You get the greased pole.

I know it isn't much, but services like mastodon, lemmy, kbin, friendica, Peertube, etc have shown me there is connected pushback.

Tilde communities have given me something smaller scale to focus on.

https://tildeverse.org

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Every civilization rises and falls. We're on the down slope ATM. Sorry. The 80s and 90s were pretty nice in America!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

That feel when the Matrix actually called it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Problems exist, but there's never been a safer time to be a homosapien on Earth. A book called Abundance helped me gain a little perspective in these gloomy days.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Technofascists really benefit from certain kinds of information being inaccessible…

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

fascists really love LLM's. like ridiculously in love with them. it's where all their 'art' comes from. it's made of the shallow aesthetics with no interiority they love so much. plus it doesn't really require articulating your desires much, or having artists.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

To borrow Alex Jones’ term - it is information warfare. Train people to accept the outputs of LLMs, attack media literacy (in conjunction with the fact that public schools in the US spent ten years not teaching children how to read), and hide actual sources.

You can have your LLM trained to weasel around the fact that the chattel slavery of black Americans was the primary cause of the Civil War, or falsely represent science surrounding gender and sexuality (they’re explicitly tuning Grok on this).

You don’t have to worry about subversive messages on war or women in your “AI” generated “Ghibhli” film. Have all the fun space faring of Star Wars, without the prequel geopolitics everyone hated until they saw it happen.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

They did that long before AI.
Google, Apple and plenty others have regular meetings with defense people to accomodate them.
No surprise Eric Schmit left Google to form a defense company since some employees there had a consciense and didn't like working on killer drone programs.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Would this be the same AI that spits out incorrect summarys or just flat out gets data incorrect constantly? What could possibly go wrong by making that the ONLY way to look for things going forward. Fucking morons.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 weeks ago

I am no longer feeling lucky

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The future is coming and it sure looks like garbage. I have long since left Google behind.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It’s been a long time I use DuckDuckGo as my default search engine for basic stuff (which let’s be honest, more than 80% is just a simple query to find a certain area of some website, like “Firefox download Windows”, “Discord site status”, “Microsoft office pricing” etc.). If I want to search something more related to my own language or recent events in my county, Google is a must, but that’s like 10% of all my search engine usage. I don’t really need Google to know about the other 90%.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism. Next question...

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds cool, can’t wait!

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm decrepit enough to remember pre-Google web, with competing search engines. Bring back webrings!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AI is over hyped and doesn’t need to be shoved in our faces. Ugh.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this for human beings, or is it for Google to show their investors to prove that AI is totally going to revolutionize something eventually?

Screw Google either way, I'm not going to use their search engine either way, but this doesn't feel like a product they are genuinely committed to releasing. Maybe I'm wrong, and in that case, screw them even more.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Stick to SEARCH, not making shit up (euphemistically called "hallucinating").

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Unlike most of Lemmy, I actually like AI and even I don't want this.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

How many cases of "You should eat at least one small rock per day" AI bullshit does Google think is acceptable for production deployment?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, google does searches now too? Wow they have a service for everything.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

startpage. you're welcome.

it's also not us owned or based.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The model uses "advanced reasoning, thinking, and multimodal capabilities"...

Well, LLM's are incapable of actually doing the first two, so we're already off to a great start.

I don't think it's much in the way of hyperbole to say that if they make this the default or worse, only search output option then this will be the thing that literally destroys the company.

No one except idiotic boardroom denizens actually wants this. Google failing to provide actual search results is the singular one and only thing that could actually get users to switch away from using it -- and not do that thing where they just grumble and bitch and moan but keep using it anyway. And if no one is searching on Google then nobody is seeing ads on Google, which means Google will not be selling ads.

I will laugh so hard if this happens.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

I don't need to care. I stopped using Google search months ago.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dear Google,

Literally no one wants this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Nope. Plenty of people want this.

In the last few years I've seen plenty of cases where CS undergrad students get stumped if ChatGPT is unable to debug/explain a question to them. I've literally heard "idk because ChatGPT can't explain this lisp code" as an excuse during office hours.

Before LLMs, there were also a significant amount of people who used GitHub issues/discord to ask simple application usage questions instead of Googling. There seems to be a significant decrease of people's willingness to search for an answer regardless of AI tools existing.

I wonder if it has to do with weaker reading comprehension skills?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks Google, I hate it. At least the udm=14 trick and website still works, at least until google decides to stop supporting that feature. Definitely going to be using that more and more if this becomes the default google experience.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok, but why should I go to Google for ai answers when I can get the same from openai, other models or even local installations without all the ads?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately this isn’t about you, but the 90% of people who don’t understand what AI is at all and don’t give a shit where the responses come from as long as “scorpio dream meaning high school teacher truck” and “can you gregnant with cousin?” Give them answers they like

/s to an extent, but here we are

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean their search results have gone to absolute shit anyway, the AI is probably better at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

thinking google is about offering you a quality search at this point is like thinking facebook is about improving your social experience. they both started like that and that's how they hooked people up. but they have their own interests now. those interests revolve around affecting how people act and think. one central thing they need to do to fulfil those interests is controlling what people see and know... and that's very hard to do when this pesky external content generated by other that is hard to control gets into way...

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Been using Ecosia for months now. DuckDuckGo and Startpage before that. I'm pretty happy with Ecosia search results, can't complain.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Oh wow sounds great, can I get in line now to not use it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't really get Google's angle since it's pretty obvious that their AI search sucks. Maybe it's just to impress shareholders?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, they're ruining their search anyways. It's almost unusable at this point, it's like asking for relevant ads and two year old Reddit posts

Is it censorship? Did they decide to just straight up sell SEO? Are websites locking down and blocking their crawlers to stop AI training crawlers?

I legitimately find Bing to be better at this point, but whatever they're doing it's maddening. Even better AI assisted web searches kinda suck because the data fed into them is more of the same

But solid chance they're trying to boost Gemini, which has been a shockingly bad llm for a company that basically wrote the book on AI not too long ago

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

When I use a web search tool I want to look at the websites themselves. Not having to go through Gemini (the AI not the protocol) telling me what IT thinks I want...

Assuming AGI ever develops and bothers to sift through data. I've no problem with AI as a tool (that is, Dumb AI like we currently have.)

When I'm doing a web search rather than actually calling up Gemini (The AI not the Protocol) I want a WEB SEARCH... that means I am not looking to use AI. I'm wanting to use OI (Organic Intelligence.)

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