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Summary

U.S.-China tensions are escalating as Trump imposes tariffs on all Chinese goods, prompting Beijing to retaliate and vow to fight “any type” of war.

China is boosting defense spending by 7.2% while portraying itself as a stable global partner.

The fentanyl issue adds to disputes, with Beijing dismissing it as a pretext for tariffs.

China faces economic struggles but is injecting billions to stabilize growth.

If Trump continues escalating tariffs, the trade war could intensify, worsening global economic and geopolitical instability.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 139 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I just caught myself almost rooting for China for a moment there. It has been a wild month.

[–] breadguy@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 85 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

For a brief moment thought crossed mind but then when news came out they are considering sending in military to get experience in Ukraine and threatening Taiwan was a reminder that US and China are both enemies.

Would rather both countries destroy each other.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 weeks ago

Also claiming the part of South China Sea that's not theirs. And land dispute with india.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

To your last part, that would likely end hundreds of millions if not billions of lives. The world population is several times larger than it was during the second world war. A conflict at scale between the United States and China would absolutely be a global conflict.

For no reason other than to illustrate how many lives another world war would take, World War 2 resulted in the loss of life of at least 3% of the world population. That figure in 1946 was somewhere in the range of 70 to 80 million. 3% of the global population today would be 246 million people.

I don't point this out to be snide, just to say that it is absolutely a worst possible case scenario if the United States and China go to war against each other. It would affect the lives of every human being on earth. Those nations do not share land borders. It would mean widespread invasion and destruction of other nations in both hemispheres.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

The world population is orders of magnitude larger than it was during the second world war.

FYI, order of magnitude = x10. otherwise your math seems to check out, but this got me confused. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_magnitude

[–] Today@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Japan needs to invest into biotechnology, because Biotech is Godzilla

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Any type of war?

I vote for a war where both "great leaders" beat the shit out of eachother

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Xi would beat the tar outta our bloated excuse for a head of state.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly facts it would be so embarrassing.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes. A one on one, no holds bared match, mano y mano. Which fat stupid 70+ year old leech will blow a major artery first! Take your bets now!!

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was gonna say an all out thumb war between the peoples but I like your idea better.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trust me, they aren’t. But neither are the Americans.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Xi is definitely beating Trump at thumb war.

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[–] aleq@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"If war is what the US wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war or any other type of war, we're ready to fight till the end," China's embassy said on X, reposting a line from a government statement on Tuesday.

Maybe something is lost in translation, but this sounds like they're primarily talking about economic wars. My reading is that they're just saying that they won't accept US bullying, which is good.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The "any other type of war" part is definitely intentional though.

[–] darkmoon_au@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

I can't fault them for it personally. They've not been the ones going off the rails and stirring international shit.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

China is just as jingoistic as America for domestic consumption. Both countries believe their own propaganda. It's like pre-WW1 Russian Empire and Austria-Hungry all over again. Complete ignorance that any actual conflict would rip them to pieces.

[–] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

the Cold War was a free printing money machine for 50 years. creating a new one against China makes sense if you're an oligarch whose wealth rides upon govt contracts and endless military industrial expansionism.

and it kinda explains why Putin is manipulating Trump to make him believe they'll choose the US over China in a game of saber rattling. Russia is positioning itself to be the tie-breaker so it can play both sides against one another in lucrative energy/arms deals. maybe they'll even get some real estate out of it.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They are welcome to Florida if they leave the rest of us alone

~/s~

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The problem with imperialists is that they might say they are happy with whatever the current concession is on the table today but will still want to expand their power beyond whatever limits it currently has tomorrow.

[–] soyboy77@fedia.io 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These world leaders desperately want to be seen as tough guys but they're merely overcompensating for their micropenises.

[–] coffeeisblack@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gives a new meaning to sword fight

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

The sword is mightier than the pen is.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Choosing this post among many others to say that I am tired of old men declaring wars they have no skin in, for a future they will never leave. The world is starting to mirror the mental images of their deteriorating brains.

[–] NightCrawlerProMax@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I propose a hell in a cell match between the two Presidents.

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

winnie the pooh vs. a dumb sack of fat. 3, 2, 1, go!

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I choose Naval Battle! Go!

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I was hoping for a pog war. I hear the pog of war makes things very tricky.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 weeks ago

The only time when having SLAM in the headline; describing a pog war is acceptable.

[–] badhops@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

lol yeah their navy has “army” in its name. Their blue-water capability is simply not in the same league as the USN.

But also, if they wait a few years, I’m sure our military will start to fracture and esprit de corps and morale will largely evaporate because they’re all sick of shooting at other Americans.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

China faces economic struggles but is injecting billions to stabilize growth.

The sole manufacturer of everything we buy faces economic struggles. We better fucking hope they don’t because all they have to do is increase prices and we’ll bring them the money on our knees. Good planning on behalf of our capitalist oberlords.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 2 weeks ago

Air superiority conflict over the Caribbean!

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Economic, trade, soft power, cyber...sure, hell they stand a chance in those. Combat? Not even close, they would be leveled. The tricky part is using the advantage they have in the first few without receiving the kneejerk usage of the last one against them.

In actuality, the CCP influencing anything outside China (and arguably inside China) is a worst case outcome. The US doing so is very quickly moving up the ranks to the second worst. The world is going to need the EU, and allies, to step up and keep both in check.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Russia just beat us in a war and didn’t have to fire a shot. They’ll have to beat Russia at the disinformation/planting assets game first to win the war with Russia.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

The world would be better without this dumb trade war. People would actually be able to afford a goddamn car, which they only need because the elites took away our fucking trolleys.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If a war happens, whoever wins, we lose. :(

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. War doesn't determine who is right, but who is left.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OG red and green version only

[–] scottrepreneur@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is green the version you got when combining blue and yellow?

[–] RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Green came out in Japan instead of the original Blue in the West.

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Oh wow, are we getting a world war with China and Europe allied against Russia and the US?

Things are all wonky

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Me too, man, me too.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Let's fucking go!!!!

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