Until 65? Good luck with that.
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Yup.
Mom just retired at 70. On her feet working for society for 50 years. Now she hobbles around home with the help of a walker. She'll spend the last 5-10 years of her life hanging out at home, with her only trips being to the doctor's office.
Because this is all a scam to burn the lives of average people so the wealthy can live better than any kings from antiquity ever did.
And our fates will be the same, or worse, if we don't eat these motherfuckers.
67 for most now until they increase it again or worse, and dangling the extras if you stay until 70.
Many won't be able to go to places like this at that point, neither physically or financially, and it might even be gone due to climate. I can think of many fixes to this system, but none work because they would go against the way things work, and the machine must keep rolling.
Yeah, that nice greenery has another 15, 20 at tops.
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9-5? More like 8-5 at a minimum wherever I've been at.
9-5 is a dream.
Doing the bare minimum of responsibilities/hygiene my weekdays are 7am-630pm so once I'm settled I get maybe 2-3 hours to eat and do something fun. Assuming there isn't anything I need to do around the house.
Also those leisure hours are "fun" while I mentally prepare for the next day's beatings.
Saturday is a burner day to recover, Sunday is all chores and errands to get ready for the next 5 days.
It sure is grim when I type all that out.
Sounds horrible. My day is wake up at 7, have breakfast, work from 8.20 or so, stop working at 15.30 or so (depends on my energy and what I decide to do).
I sleep at 22.30 so there are lots of hours to do what I want.
This is a very typical life for IT workers where I live (western Europe, not USA).
It's not common in the US but there are decent jobs, they are just very competitive to get and people rarely leave them aside from retirement so turnover is very slow compared to shitty places with high staff turnover. It took me several years working experience, a degree, and a bit of luck to land one. Currently working IT in the US 10-5 with on call rotation a couple times a year, good salary in low-ish cost of living area, pension, 401k, a little over a month off a year PTO plus holidays that increases with seniority, mostly reasonable people to work with and for, etc.
The secret sauce is around 10% of the workforce is union and strikes are fairly regular to protect workers rights that affect both union and non union workers.
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I'm in the same boat too. Honestly I don't think this will get better. The grind never stops. I am thinking to consider moving to jobs which are at least interesting to me since I'm going to spend 70%(might be more if math done properly) of my rest of my life working, might as well it be interesting or fun to me. Idk if I can pull it off.
I feel you. I never thought I'd get out of retail management and landed a sweet operations job that pays well. The downside is it's a small company so I do everything. I'm good at it and it's stimulating, but I'm accountable for so many things and people that it's been really wearing me down for the last few years, I'm at 11/10 effort almost every day.
I could find something else but it probably won't pay as well, and likely wouldn't be any better for my health. Doesn't hurt to look though, right?
I just want to contribute and do good work and enjoy my life.
Don't forget getting ready for work and commuting.
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Don't worry, we're working on making the earth look WAY shittier so you can work your 9-5 without worrying about missing out on anything.
This. A lot of the earth doesn't look like this. And a lot of normal jobs are actively making it worse. Like, unfortunately you don't need to work for Nestle to be a part of that.
I'm not blaming any minimum wage worker at Amazon or retail or in factories of course. They got no choice. We live in a system where unemployment is ultimately better for the planet than a significant portion of jobs.
Nope, your World looks like this:
Now stop dallying and get to work.
/s
Walls? What company is this?
Looks a lot like the cubes at my old company. Fun Fact, as far as I know, i was the first employee to ever build a roof for my cubical. It took them months to notice because of my out of the way location..
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The purpose of life is to sit in a cubicle and work to destroy this for the sake of shareholder profits. It's a very efficient system
Sacrifice more time on this planet to the global suicide machine, so you can buy toys
Ooo! I like toys
Yes. So your boss can enjoy the view.
You on the other hand can get fucked asshole.
/S
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People used to have more free time. But today we have graphics cards.
I don't know that many people who can afford a graphics card anymore though.
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This beautiful landscape is missing a Walmart with a 600 car parking lot.
The worst part is that parking lot is probably mandatory per city regulations. We should abolish parking mandates country wide! (and you can help too, see https://parkingreform.org/)
We need mass public transportation. Buses, trains, trolleys, and walkable cities.
Humans: "I love nature."
Also Humans: "Let's live and work in concrete boxes stacked into the sky!"
We're working on 7-8billion people on this tiny little rock. We all need to be living in dense urban setups. This entitlement most of us have is ridiculous. We are straight up ruining this planet with our endless suburbs and desire to own a chunk of wilderness. As if our own enjoyment and personal appreciation is a virtue worth the destruction we wreak with our presence.
Al Gore said it best, it's an inconvenient truth.
Just because it's the most efficient way for all of us to live doesn't mean it's good for us. There are too many humans for this planet to support. We need to reduce the population ethically. Stop having kids.
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65???
Look at Richie McMoneybags over here living in his Socialist utopia where he doesn't have to keep working until he keels over dead on the clock.
65? What Utopian country is that?
In Sweden it's 62-65.
In Finland it's 65-68, however retirement system is likely to collapse before my actual retirement age, so I "retired" last summer at 28.
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In Germany it's work until you die. Boomers chill from 65. We will work well into our 70s 💅
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Hahahaha get a load of this guy. He thinks he gets to retire ahahahhahaha
Corporations have figured out how to make indentured servitude look good and reasonable with your credit card debt, taxes you can’t evade like they can, bills and healthcare “benefits” added to your permanent and relentless tab alongside meager time off so the C suites can fly on private jets, lobby against your livelihood and hope you are none the wiser bc most ppl are.
yes, instead of scrounging for berries when you're 75 and dying of an infected wound from when you fell over on that mountain
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There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, which specified that a concern for one's life in the face of work that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. I was crazy and could be not working. All i had to do was ask; and as soon as i did, i would no longer be crazy and would have to work more. I would be crazy to work more and sane if i didn't, but if i was sane i had to work. If i work i was crazy and didn't have to; but if i didn't want to i was sane and had to.
I'm very anti-work, but one night in that environment with no shelter and food and I'd be dreaming of an office space. That being said, there is definitely a better world somewhere between working 50-80hours a week and sleeping outside with no shelter or food.
I don't think the post is implying a desire to live in nature, but rather expressing the inability to ever visit because of work
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65? boy have you been out of the loop.
I mean, there are ways to go and work there instead.
Reminds me of the story about how Claude Sonnet (computer use) got bored while doing work and started looking at pictures of Yellowstone:
Our misanthropy of cubicle culture is infectious.
Looks like glacier national Park
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