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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

the US-Canadian border has been one of, if not the, most peaceful borders in the entire world.

the most peaceful and mutually beneficial border on Earth.

Tell me your views are extremely America-centric without telling me.

The only way you can have those views is if you know nothing about the EU at all.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The US and Canada haven't fought since 1812. Which European border of a major super power has a longer history of being close allies?

The UK and Scotland shouldn't count because Scotland isn't a sovereign country, they are a state of the UK that has lied about retaining their sovereignty for 500 years (which is why they have to beg England for permission to even hold an independece referendum)

Spain and France shouldn't count because Spain worked with the Nazis in ww2 and wouldn't help France.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Switzerland? Apart from a bit of aerial bombing during WWII it's been a pretty peaceful border since that time Napoleon invaded.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The US and Canada haven’t fought since 1812. Which European border of a major super power has a longer history of being close allies?

What’s the definition of “being a close ally”? You’re using the date of Canada and USA last conflict, but for Spain and France you’re using political alignment.

I think Portugal and Spain also make a good candidate if we’re looking back only until the early 1800’s. The border itself had a few changes but they were peaceful IIRC, the last conflict was 1801?

On a separate note, the quote says has been the most peaceful and beneficial, so it’s not so much as a matter of peaceful for the longest time. Even if EU borders weren’t peaceful way back, quite a few of them are so peaceful nowadays that they barely register as existing. In terms of most beneficial, I’m not sure how to analyze that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Quite a surprising one here: I think the Norwegian/russian border can actually match that. I believe Norway is the only country neighbouring russia that has never been invaded by them (sans WWII, where they invaded Nazi-occupied Norway and willingly left after the Axis was defeated).

I also think the Norwegian/Danish border has been conflict-free for some hundred years (to be fair, we were in a union for ≈450 years ending in 1814). We've had some skirmishes with the Swedes throughout the years, but I believe the last one was in 1814.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

"In the last 100 years"... European borders were not peaceful for that long

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

To be fair, historically speaking, Europe's borders have been all but peaceful.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Fair, but on March 26 the initial Schengen-Borders will have been basically nonexistent for 30 years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Canada and the US have been close allies for 200 years. The last time they fought was 1812 Edit: I was wrong, we have only been close allies for 130 years

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Not 200 years. The last major conflict was the War of 1812 but relations weren't rosy until the Great Rapprochement starting around 1895. The period inbetween saw the Fenian Raids, Patriots' War, Britain's tacit support of the Confederacy and the Trent Affair, and disputes around the Oregon Country and Alaska border. Hell, Confederation happened mostly because of fears of the US's growing power after its civil war.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

It has been detrimental to the many first nations whose lands have been divided.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Lmao, I’ve got a bullet for every magat fuck that crosses the border. Last thing they’ll hear is a tree speaking French

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

it would be great to remind americans how many sniping records get broken by canadians. start making that gear domestically, if you don't already. maybe start taking out tires on trucks with american plates. just so they know how unwelcome they are, and if they want to take something across the border, it had better be a canadian getting paid to do it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Please stop radicalizing yourself and others. This is a conflict manufactured by Putin to sew disharmony between allies. There are better solutions, don't stop looking for them.

Also, you may have just placed yourself in legal jeopardy. Fucking be cool.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Lol. Putin of course had a lot to do with it, but he targeted american trump supporters for a reason. They are particularily susceptible to manufactured division, they are subhuman hateful violent trash. I will gleefully kill the magat cultist freaks when they come to Canada. I have no doubt that Trump will try to send the military, and I have no doubt that his cultists will go along with it. Best of luck to anyone who wants to pursue "better solutions," but I have been politely debating the issues for 10 years with republicans and they have only gotten crazier and crazier over time. The republican cult media ecosystem is pretty unanimous in their support for the annexation of Canada. This cannot be tolerated, not even 1 word of it. The line was crossed. There is no going back now, there is only one way out of this situation and its the expulsion of all the magats from the world. Send the cops to come arrest me. I won't pretend that things are normal while the US prepares their citizens to accept Canada as an enemy that deserves to be attacked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I agree with a lot of your points, but take a step back dude. You're in too deep. Plan for the worst, sure, but don't lose your humanity.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Yeah and it worked. Canada and the us are fully enemies at this point. The best solution is for the what remains of the us to rise up and stamp out this dictatorship before things go too far.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Oh yeah? Is defending your country against an invasion illegal? Fuckin’ dweeb

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This is a conflict manufactured by Putin to sew disharmony between allies.

It's sow, not "sew". But yeah, basically. He's smarter than he gets credit for, not like it's hard to fool someone like D-bag, but still. He saw a juicy opportinuty to manipulate a western bootlicker, and he got 77m other idiotic bootlickers to meme him into office.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Putin is absolutely extremely intelligent. Just also very evil.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm putting a new scope on my crossbow as we speak. Reusable ammo is an underrated perk.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah, the French Canadian spirit!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Brb gotta affix a bayonet on my shovel.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

im with you 👊

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I'll be on this side of the border lighting off freedom displays of fire works to signal every raiding party heading over.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Very inadequate response so far. G7 meeting did not result in any unity with G6.

It is straightforward to destroy US auto industry and agriculture. Export tariffs on energy, materials, potash. Stop reciprocal tariffs on China. China just tariffed US auto parts. Canada specializes in these. Great idea to get closer to Europe, but they do not have our back, and its not producing any results so far. Democrats definitely not a check on US empire/extortion.

It's very easy to get a cost advantage in Canada for auto industry. Export tariffs provide revenue support for subsidies to ensure it. Fuck WTO rules, until "fake emergency" is revoked. Force automakers to side with Canadian plants. Michigan provincehood. Cancel all US military cooperation, kick them out of NORAD, demand refund for all F35s, and cancel rest without paying penalty on corruption grounds. Exterminate Boeing orders.

Immediate diplomacy with China, North Korea, Russia, Mexico. Hoping that other colonies choose Canada friendship over US boot licking, should be read as a long shot, unless we/they coordinate on destroying US auto, aerospace and weapons industry.

Where Trump/US (stop saying this is "one man" or even one party responsible) is very successfully keeping the colonies divided against China, and begging for submission to US military evil. That is precise path that loses our country. It's time to commit to destroying US economy, until they back down, and we gain a better relationship than we had before.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Sorry Tankies, we aren't going to run to China, Russia, and NK just because the US is starting act more like them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (6 children)

You had me until the "China/Russa/NK" part...

Do you really think a good solution to the US slowly going haywire over the past 20-30 years or so is snuggling up to dictatorships, of which two have boots on the ground in the first major European war of aggression since WWII, and the third is the only thing keeping the economy of the other two afloat? I think not. I think alienating said dictatorships is a good idea. I also think the US needs to be confronted and forced to make a decision on whether it wants to remain on good terms with the civilised world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

HumanSpiral is a tankie who comments a lot. Have him tagged as such and I recommend you do the same, because these guys are prolific commenters trying to slowly normalize relations with Russia/China. It's good to spot them early so you can move on.

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