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Dunning-Kruger (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

XY can get pregnant?

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“It’s basic biology” mfs when advanced biology

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 days ago (5 children)

it is basic biology, ie biology simplified to teach a kid in middle school. the thing is sciences don't stop at middle school level. a lot of university education is about clarifying that things you learned before were simplified to the point that they're practically useless if not outright wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I agree with Dr. Jey McCreight on the science.

But for determining truth, both sides are wrong here.

Dunning-Kruger is bad, but so is credentialism and appeal to authority.

Many people with PhD's have had Dunning-Kruger. Someone else mentioned Ben Carson being great at neurosurgery, but not politics.

A PhD doesn't make you infallible.

I am saying this as someone who is taking graduate-level courses and will be pursuing my PhD. When I'm correct, it's not because my future PhD causes reality to magically conform to my opinions - it's because I rigorously looked at the evidence, logic, and formed my own conclusion that better aligns with reality.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You can even be incorrect on a subject you have expertise in.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

that's why we have peer reviews for new findings by experts.

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[–] Squirrelanna 6 points 5 days ago

Okay but what is good engagement against "follow the science" aside from "I literally DO the science"? Dr. McCreight offered a point and was met with "nuh uh" so at that point it can hardly be called an argument or debate. Do those fallacies honestly matter at that point when one refuses to engage with tangible points of discussion?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago

People who see gender as a F or M binary in 2025 are willingly ignorant to the bone.

[+] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (9 children)

thee are only 2 atoms in the universe: hydrogen (74%) and helium (24%). so you're either a Hydrogen, a Helium or have a syndrome

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago (27 children)

I found the one with Dunning-Kruger! Do I win a prize???

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

XY it’s man, XX it’s woman, nothing will ever change that…

I think it's really funny you left out the exact intersex conditions that disprove your point, Swyer syndrome and de la Chapelle syndrome.

You are either a man, a woman, or you have a syndrome

So someone with de la Chapelle syndrome is neither a man nor a woman but has a syndrome? 'Man' and 'woman' are social categories and syndrome is not, so this makes no sense. Also I doubt you'd be able to spot the 'syndrome' in a group of men.

It’s a delusion to believe that you can change your biological sex during your lifetime.

This is a strawman I see repeated a lot. I've never seen trans advocates claim this, only opponents. Even then I would still argue that it is true to some extent. Sex is not just chromosomes (as proven by the two conditions I linked above). It's made up of many different characteristics and you can change some of them, e.g. with hormone replacement therapy, which changes some secondary sex characteristics. Or even just gynecomastia does it too.

For people who are interested in what the actual science says about this topic I recommend Forrest Valkai's new Sex and Sensibility video (warning, it's long).

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And no, you won’t change speech, you are a man and a he, a woman and a she. That’s it, you can get as angry as you want, nothing will ever change that.

Language is completely made up and changes all the time. But you're claiming it will never change again?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

You're a sad transphobic loser. Have fun being banned. I'll personally find and report the rest of your alts to make sure you're banned from all of Lemmy forever.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The phrase is funny but you wouldn't catch me dead wearing a logical fallacy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can I interest you in a logical phallus?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Darn that science, keep that liberal where it belongs, in the humanities.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I hope this criticism is valid :
https://economicsfromthetopdown.com/2022/04/08/the-dunning-kruger-effect-is-autocorrelation/ and
https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2023/05/09/debunking_the_dunning-kruger_effect_898340.html#!
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There is a "people think they are better than average" rule, rather than whatever Dunning-Kreuger suggested.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Dunning-Kruger reminds me of this one president and his cabinet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Critically thinking now, how strong is the evidence here?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

Those are two real medical diagnoses - Swyer syndrome or XY gonadal dysgenesis for XY women (occurs in about 1:100000 women) and de la Chapelle syndrome or XX male syndrome for XX men (occurs in about 1:20000 to 1:30000 men)

Here is a NORD report on Swyer syndrome, as well as the original article on de la Chapelle syndrome: 1.https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/swyer-syndrome/ 2.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1762158/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

A person’s biological sex usually refers to their status as female or male depending on their chromosomes, reproductive organs, and other characteristics. Chromosomes are tightly packed DNA, or molecules that contain the genetic instructions for the development and functioning of all living things. Humans typically have forty-six chromosomes. Two of those are sex chromosomes that contain instructions for the development and functioning of characteristics related to biological sex, such as reproductive organs. There are two kinds of human sex chromosomes, X and Y. Individuals identified as males tend to have one X and one Y chromosome, while those identified as females tend to have two X chromosomes. However, other people are born with other chromosome combinations, such as XXY, that lead them to develop a mix of characteristics. People who fit that description are often referred to as intersex, a category for people whose bodies do not conform with stereotypical expectations of males or females at birth.