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[–] [email protected] 179 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How considerate to have a guy in the corner translating to Italian.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Mama Mia spaghetti carbonara!

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, this didn't really happen

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Thanks for this. We need a way of flagging satire or misinformation more clearly. I don’t think it’s enough to have it buried in the comment sections.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Well. Seeing as this is NCD…

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Maybe we should put these types of posts into a community and say that it's non-credible in the name.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I would say it's obvious satire but then i remembered the reality we live in

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Personally I take everything here very seriously as the community is clearly called credibledefense

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

France demands a mineral deal and a thank you

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

The US should be more thankful. And should wear a suit

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] iknowitwheniseeit 34 points 1 month ago

It only took Haiti 122 years to pay off the French.

Liberte, egalite, fraternite. 😑

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sorry, that deal was made with the French royal family, not the republic. It's null and void.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

It doesn't matter. The debt was repaid in 1795 by James Swan, a banker who assumed the debt from the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If you transfer debts and loans they're still valid, it's what the ussr Russia exchange did.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't think France would want to open up the indemnity/ reparations conversation...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i mean they did give us democracy, existentialism, and the blow job.....

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

...menage à trois.....soixante-neuf....

But aside from those, what have the French done for us?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Baguette, croissant, macarron

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, yes, but other than that, what have the French really ever done for us?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Napoleonic law, the metric system, pasteurization

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, yes, but other than that?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They aren't? They are talking about a loan which has nothing to do with indemnity / reparations.

They financed the US independence movement / war out of self interest to screw on England and any way they got paid with the Quasi-War.

Looking at history the US were never a reliable partnet, cough remember the maine cough.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Start with musk's fortune and go down the wealthiest Americans list.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

NGL the USA becoming a French Colony would fix 90% of the political issues currently plaguing it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, it would probably end up like Haiti

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Yeah, uhuh. I think if you look at the papers, that debt was owed to a king whose head ended up in a basket. 🧺. That was, hmm, quite a few French republics ago.

Meanwhile, why don't we discuss that little Normandy caper that one time

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago

This is a joke about the US's recent demands for Ukraine to 'pay back' the aid given to defend its independence against Russian imperialism and genocide.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

Such a fragile ego, so easily hurt.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

More specifically, Lilly estimated that U.S. servicemen committed around 3,500 rapes in France between June 1944 and the end of the war.[10]

Rape per capita in 2022 France: ~116 per 100,000 men

Rape per capita in 2022 England and Wales: ~234 per 100,000 men

Number of American troops in France during WW2: ~2,300,000

Estimated American rape per capita in WW2 France: ~152 per 100,000 American soldiers

By those numbers, it would be safer to be a French woman with an American soldier in WW2, than to be a woman with an English man today.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

cut this crap.

  1. Your numbers are ~~wrong~~ cherrypicked
  2. Your hypothesis is wrong
  3. Your conclusion is wrong

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your numbers are wrong

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country

By your own source, it would be 118 per 100,000 men in France and 218 per 100,000 men in England and Wales.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (10 children)

You appear to bend the numbers every step of the way to support a conclusion you simply can't draw. Here's the laundry list of issues:

1. The reported numbers of today and the estimated numbers from 1944 are uncomparable I find it crazy to use a multiplier within the same scale to 1944 rapes as to 2022 rape.

A) Reporting patterns changed over the years: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_France #Statistics)]

B) Definitions had changed over the years such as inclusion of marital rape which : [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_France#Marital_rape] [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jo-Lovett/publication/238713283_Home_Office_Research_Study_293_A_gap_or_a_chasm_Attrition_in_reported_rape_cases/links/00b7d52a09b4935e0e000000/Home-Office-Research-Study-293-A-gap-or-a-chasm-Attrition-in-reported-rape-cases.pdf]

C) Increases happened in inclusion of female perpetrators into the convictions (it's about 4% in France but it's still a major shift from 0%) [https://www.statista.com/statistics/1085508/people-indicted-sexual-violence-france-gender-age/] and male victims in the estimates [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8713172/]

D) Age of consent was redefined over the years, with now 3rd of 2022 rapes were committed against underaged girls (younger than 15) in France.

2. You can't draw conclusions on population distribution-dependent statistics, by assuming a 50-50% distribution but a 100% perpetration rate by one sex. In fact natives males are quartered diffusely with females, whereas solders are quartered with males predominantly and thus the distribution is uneven. Since the majority of present-day rapes happen between current or past intimate partners (60%), the patterns are very much different. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1158136009000486?casa_token=egmg2OrX84oAAAAA:an10FT7p5uFwGrxUWjhU1IH3Awc6oOR8tyrEZlkuqE88WHE7R-pcvEmCyTYY9EYJap6yFJA3

The fair way to compare these stats is to that of German and Russian forces from the same time, which is totally fair game. But bending numbers to claim that women were safer with GI Joes in 1944 than in present days is just fucking bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Since you decide to be salty and whiny about a joke, let's educate you a bit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_of_states

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

By the rules of "we got there first", France would owe Canada for that one.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Eh only if the use that money to rebuild Haiti

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Checking if I'm still banned from this community after I said Ukraine was not gonna enter NATO.

Edit: yay, now I can say "I told you so"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I'm still not sure you're correct, they could always join after the US leaves.

Probably better off just trying to join the EU though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You were never banned from this NCD.

But congratulations for predicting that Trump would be elected and now celebrating it, I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

whats with the little guy in the corner

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Sign Language Interpreter.

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