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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Carney, Carney, he's our man, if he can't do it no one can

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

You love to see it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Please not another liberal government, getting tired of the restrictions they place on law abiding citizens.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Which ones? Is it the "can't not pay for social services" restriction? The "can't secretly own a firearm" resteiction? Or the "can't overrule other countries' entry requirements" restriction?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I'll be voting libs but man those firearm restrictions are straight bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Is it the "can't not pay for social services" restriction?

You mean unnecessary use of resources tax.

The "can't secretly own a firearm" resteiction?

Secret? The firearms bans are only affecting people apart of the Canadian Firearms Program, people who have gone through the CFSC and daily background checks.

You think criminals are actually going to follow the law and abide by these bans? It’s literal abuse of OIC just to take law abiding citizens property.

the "can't overrule other countries' entry requirements" restriction?

I assume you’re referring to the B.C women who was recently arrested over at the US border. Ultimately she went down there with incomplete documentation, like everyone else she should’ve sorted that out before even attempting to cross.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can literally see a direct link between difficulty of acquiring a gun legally and difficulty acquiring a gun illegally.

Statistically, majority of guns used in crime were legally purchased at some point in their existence

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Statistically, majority of guns used in crime were legally purchased at some point in their existence

That’s really not at all baffling? We’re talking guns over 100 years old ending up on these ban lists.

The recent public safety announcement they claim that the rifles banned were meant for war. Guns like the GSG (German Sports-Shooting Gun) were banned while not banning the SKS (Made literally for ww2).

The logic here is admittedly flawed and not enough Canadians realize that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Do you have a coherent point to make or was that the attempt?

Asking as an rpal holder who finds the new round of restrictions poorly written and ill-informed, but that isn't going to drive me to vote for an idiot like PP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Asking as an rpal holder who finds the new round of restrictions poorly written and ill-informed, but that isn't going to drive me to vote for an idiot like PP.

That’s disappointing to hear. PAL/RPAL holders are a dying breed among Canadians and the liberals intend to solidify it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

So.. no coherent point. Thank you for clarifying.

Anyone can earn my vote by:

Prioritizing healthcare and social services (including education) Protecting basic human rights. Not being a shit-bag of a human nor tolerating them in government. Focusing on green economic growth.

I don't base my votes off who can get me the most irrationally mad about issues that are invented or overblown. And while I have a whole list of complaints about the uselessness of the changes to gun laws here, the biggest one is how effective it is at mobilizing otherwise happily dissconnected voters into actually taking the time to go vote. It's like 8d chess where the Liberals are looking for a way to get the Conservative vote out and found the key....

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'm baffled by the correlation of age and support of conservatives. How is their top demo the youngest one?

Is social media / podcast bro brainrot really outdoing the common trope of getting more conservative with age?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago

Try watching YouTube with a new email and watch your suggestions. If you watch a single right wing video that is all you will ever get.

Same with tiktok and Instagram.

Also young men aren't interested in secondary education, they're having trouble with jobs, women don't want to date then due to their right wing views, so they're doubling down even further.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Many are angry, so they blame the guy that’s been around for the last decade. They are too young to remember what Stephen Harper did and don’t seem interested in figuring it out.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's definitely a big part of it, but the alt-right pipeline/manosphere shit is real and out of control in western/American social media. Things are pretty hellish right now economy-wise all over and all the social media algorithms are perfectly tuned to push "solutions" or out-groups to blame for it all.

It's like if you don't already have a political leaning to purposely influence your feed, everything is now setup to push you down a far right wing path where everything is the fault of women, LGBTQ+ people, immigrants, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I think that is correct. Also, if you are looking for boogeymen, the immigration rings true as a problem for young people because Canada legit did go a bit too crazy and especially with International students. If you are young, and every school and workforce you are competing for is suddenly stuffed with foreigners, it sounds like the conservatives are right. That makes it easier to accept that they are right about house prices, climate, other social issues, etc.

More importantly, you don’t have to believe the conservatives, you just have to be mad at the Liberals for being in power as long as you can remember and screwing it up.

Changing leaders gives the Liberals a chance to also be a “new” team.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It looks more to me like being anti-Trudeau/incumbent correlates with youth. You'll notice they're also the top NDP group in these results.

Most young people just aren't political, and those that are are mostly left-leaning in my bubble. It's just hard to picture most of them complaining about wokeism or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

That's an Americanism. Canadian boomers aren't as malignantly conservative.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (4 children)

A lot of people are going to tell you that "it's the algorithm", and there's some truth to that, but honestly I think it's a lot more straightforward:

The boomers got everything, and when they burned through that, they burned through the millennials' share too. If you're growing up a zoomer, you're looking around at a world literally on fire, and the emergence of what is effectively feudalism as the dominant world ~~religion~~ economic system. You'll never own a home, because literally everything is rented now. You're probably working 2 jobs, though they barely qualify for that word because there's zero security and you're carrying all the risk.

You're watching a literal genocide playing out on your phone, while the outgoing Trudeau proudly declares himself a Zionist, and literally everything is expensive, especially food.

Now, consider the political climate:

  • The NDP (and to a greater extent, the entire global left) is toothless and obsessing over identity politics, and if you tell your friends you're going to vote for them you're either laughed at or told you're "wasting" your vote.
  • The Liberals are refusing to recognise the dire state of the economy and the fear & frustration you have. Instead they go on TV and say that the problem with the economy is "vibes" and that voting for Conservatives means you hate gay people.
  • The Conservatives acknowledge that fear and frustration. They don't gaslight you with claims that "the stocks are up, so the economy is fine". No, they cast blame: "Trudeau did this. He torched the economy for 'wokeism'. He put on silly costumes with foreign dignitaries while you had to move back in with your parents. He did this. Him, and those immigrants, and if you vote for us, we'll get rid of all of that".

They've got the best story, and their opposition is either inept or oblivious. If they hadn't made the mistake of cozying up to Trump, they'd be a shoe-in for the next election.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The NDP (and to a greater extent, the entire global left) is toothless and obsessing over identity politics,

They're not though. The NDP has concrete policies about affordability, the economy and the environment, and also advocates for minorities to be treated fairly. Whereas the Conservatives don't have any plans except to stir up resentment and hatred.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

and to a greater extent, the entire global left

Podemos in Spain has been successful, Mexico has a leftist president, Chile's Broad Front was born from student protests in 2011, Brazil has a leftist president and governing party. The NFP in France is the opposition.

You’ll never own a home

Gen Z has some of the highest home ownership rates given their age:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katherinehamilton/2023/04/21/gen-z-ahead-of-millennials-and-their-parents-in-owning-their-own-homes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think I saw that, but I have to take it with a grain of salt. Haven't there been other studies showing gen Z has been late to a lot of milestones?

One thing this could be is the minority of young people that have a house basically supplied by their parents, because of high inequality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The oldest Gen Zer is what? 27? What milestones are they late to? Especially if they're early to home ownership.

Because they seem to be earlier to kids than millennials were, based on what I've heard, and marriage just seems to be a fundamentally different thing to many people born after GenX.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well, there's also first job, moving out to a rental and getting into a serious career (the hustling from job to job is a killer for anyone without nepotism on their side). You're right that there's cultural changes in the picture too, though.

Because they seem to be earlier to kids than millennials were, based on what I’ve heard,

It looks like average age of a new mother has gone up continuously at least in the US, actually. Teen moms are a big part of it, though, which brings up the the mean vs. median thing again.

Even if the data on housing is correct, are the non-homeowners closer or further from owning? The typical real wage has gone down, and I see little evidence that's concentrated towards older individuals like it would have to be to not hit gen Z. Anecdotally, in my family the last generation had an easier time. It's almost painful adjusting their old starting wages for inflation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not to mention the right offers a refuge for straight young men because nobody else is speaking to them.

If you’re not pure enough you’re toxic and part of the patriarchy. LGBTQIA2SBIPOC or bust.

Where do you go? Well turns out there are plenty of groups willing to accept you.

Come be an alpha bro. You just need to hit the gym, find God, pick up a gun and invest in crypto.

Then you won’t be lonely anymore.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You know, I've never felt pushed out of the left. There's little draw for people not affected by minority issues, but that's it. The active rejection of "wokeism" feels like it's coming from somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Is nobody else speaking to them? I think nobody else is coddling them. Like, leftist women aren't saying, "I won't date you unless you cut your dick off." But they are saying, "I won't date you unless you do at least 10% of the housework." I think the bar for acceptance among the left is pathetically low.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So who tells a tale that’s the strongest of all? The ones who cast blame and make others feel small. And if they weren’t friends with a man named Old Trump, They’d be winning not whining about current slumps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Their more progressive parents should've tried parenting.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Alt-right pipeline is alive and flourishing. Check on your loved ones mental health and reach across the aisle with open arms if you can, block if you can't. Try not to feed the trolls, and Godspeed!

E: can to can't

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

That can have pitfalls itself, can't it? If I knew someone who was going down that path I'd worry about it feeling like I'm policing them rather than valuing and supporting them.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The one Canadian MAGA in my family is my younger cousin. He had some rough economic and health times and the latter affected his cognitive ability. I feel really bad for him but he’s a true PP believer even through this.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wow that’s a HUGE rise. I wonder what other polling firms will show this week.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Next, we really need proportional representation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Proportional representation only looks good on a spreadsheet. It's terrible when you consider power dynamics, which you should when thinking about political systems.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

As if First Past the Post didn't have shitty power dynamics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

You mean like the shit power dynamic of a party always forming a majority government with only 40% of the vote?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Which power dynamics? Like, coalition building?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The liberal majority in Alberta is shocking. I never thought I'd see the day

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

From the article:

The Liberals enjoy decisive leads in seat-rich Ontario and Quebec. Curiously, the Liberals have a statistically insignificant edge in Alberta; however, this finding is almost certainly an artefact of chance given the small sample size in the province (this finding did not appear in our parallel Probit survey).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I support the NDP but I have moved somewhere with little chance of a seat going that way so more than likely I'll go for whichever party shows better chance of beating the conservative candidate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

At this moment in time, this is the way.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I saw Liberals leading Alberta, which made me do a double take.

Then I read the small print. Yeah, keep your expectations in check it's not that hype.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Other recent polls have put the Liberals in the lead, but not by this much. Time will tell if it's just a bit ahead of the curve or a true outlier.

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