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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26925868

Summary

Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump's promise to crack down on "criminal illegal immigrants," but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 days ago (5 children)

His wife was an illegal and he voted for Trump anyway? How dumb can you get?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Think of how stupid the average conservative is then remember half of them are stupider than that.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Think of how stupid the average conservative is then remember half of them are just as stupid as the other half.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Scraping the barrel of humanity, and we let them vote...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What kind of democracy would it be if roughly half the citizens would not be allowed to vote because deemed too stupid? And on what criteria to judge that?

The problem has more to do with education and information (as in media), that many citizens are not being educated and informed to a level/quality allowing them to vote in their best interest.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, I don't disagree at all! I was making a joke, but seems like it fell through, lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

It's hard to pickup sarcasm through text. Also, people have all kinds of opinions out here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If we assume there is no such thing as a "perfect" system of government, then I guess the question becomes which is preferable for society: a system that maximizes good, or a system which minimizes harm? Democracy somewhat obviously can't be both of those things, because (as you've correctly pointed out) a truly democratic society has to allow for people to vote against their best interests.

Are we so wedded to the concept of "democracy" that we're fine with it leading to Trump? Historically it would seem that it doesn't matter how good your intentions are, eventually enough people vote against the best interests of themselves or their society that you get a Caesar or Hitler or Trump.

Is that a system worth fighting for? Is that a system worth dying for? Honestly, I don't know. I don't know if any system of government is better.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago

This is a fairly consistent through line with a lot of conservatives in general. It's always about punishing others, even when they're part of that same group, because they're the "good" ones, as of that'll make any sort of difference to law enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Apparently dumb enough to take a vacation to Puerto Rico, which is US territory but outside the customs zone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

If you want to break up, just file for divorce, no need to drag the fed govt into this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Did you read the article? It says they had an immigration application currently under review. That isn’t the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you overstay, you are required to leave the country to apply. Just because they filed some paperwork doesn't change that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

This is untrue. My wife overstayed her visa by a couple months by the time we applied for permanent residency. She was advised by a lawyer and immigration services themselves NOT to leave the country because her most recent entry was done legally and without the intent to stay for ever (student visa).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

ICE has been arresting people at green card interviews.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago

Its not even cathartic anymore. Make the madness stop.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Who just casually overstays their visa and goes traveling? Overstaying your visa essentially guarantees you'll never be able to renew your visa again in many countries, and is a personal fear of mine.

The husband voted trump, but the wife is the bigger idiot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Who just casually overstays their visa and goes traveling?

Their pegging-loving hero fElon Mush.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

Can we get this posted a sixth time?
Who's next in line to do it