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As investment, I bought this, instead of stocks. Any ideas on what to do with it?

Location:

  • 75km (1hr) to a big international airport. Airport has direct flights to most EU capitals (2-4hr flights)
  • 50km to city center
  • 25km from nearest large residential area (500,000+ population)
  • 5km from massive organized industrial area (government supports factories here)
  • 35km from a rich residential area
  • 1km away from the village (its old and mostly depopulated) and animal husbandry area

Access:

  • There is public transportation, but one has to walk 1.5km after leaving the bus.
  • There is no direct road access to the land. You have to walk like 200m after leaving your car.
  • 1km road to here is non-asphalt and its a bit bumpy ride. When it rains, it gets bad here. It rains rarely

It is quite peaceful and quiet there. You can hear interesting bird sounds sometimes. You see no buildings, no cars and no humans anywhere near you when you're there, which feels great imo. You notice the air quality after you leave your car. I personally absolutely would want to live here for a while

Ideas

  • Trying to clarify this rn, but I think I can make $120-160/yr/decare from leasing the land to a farmer. Land is 25 decares
  • "Unique co-living opportunity with vegan food & yoga sessions" In other words, remote work / digital nomad village for people who want to work REALLY remotely :) I'd have to arrange electricity (solar panels and powerbanks), internet, toilet, shower, water, tents, mattresses/pillows/sheets, food, drinking water. (Though I don't know what people will do when they're bored here? Any ideas? Meditation would get boring after some point)
  • Sadly location isn't touristic, but it is 1hr flight away from extremely touristic areas. One of those areas, a city, was the most visited city in the world a few years ago.
  • I've met a few volunteers and they seemed quite willing to volunteer for whatever I decide to do here (if I do anything). For those unfamiliar: WWOOF and Workaway

Also- Any suggestions on where I should ask this question on the internet?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

I wish I had enough money to buy 25 acres without a clear idea of what to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 59 minutes ago

Research what you are allowed to do with that land. In my country you are not allowed to simply buy agricultural land and start building stuff on it and that is the case in most civilized countries.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 hour ago

Ah. Someone found my field of fucks. See that I had none left to give.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Plant a lot of trees. Be the owner of a forest. Just be proud.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 43 minutes ago

Dark-sky site?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago

Sit around and be a land lord. The farmer slaves can just plant and harvest stuff for you oh lord of the dirt field!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 53 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Fence it, let it regrow and let lose a shit ton of chickens. Market free range eggs.
If you lease it to a farmer, you're no better than a landlord (in fact, you are one) and I don't see why the whole of lemmy doesnt start pissing on you right away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Build a whole theme park

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

place a monument to something there, and other stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Farm things?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Plant a shtload of trees and bushes, let it go 'wild', put cottages in between, spaced so they don't see each other.

A 'back to nature' retreat around the corner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 minutes ago

It can actually be a lot of work to do this. Researching species appropriate to the biome and removing invasive ones

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like a farm, maybe plant something?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Put potato in the ground, makes more potatos, shit's crazy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

according to my calculations if I started planting potatos in my farm that would yield = the sum of times of planting (n^n-th) * (n^n-th) potatos = n^2n-th , basically infitity^infinity of potatos in no time

[–] [email protected] 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Build a large wall around the entire perimeter of the property.

Construct a tall stone tower in the middle of the property and paint it completely matt black.

Poison the land around the tower, so nothing, not even grass can grow.

Have packs of wild, feral dogs roam the property.

Dress in dark grey robes, and spend the rest of your days on the top of the tower, screaming obscenities at any passers-by, or shaking your fist angryly at the sky.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago

Move the stone wall out each night and slowly claim more land like an insidious virus

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

You also need to move the stone fence out each night to expand your domain

[–] [email protected] 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

*Mount a fiery red spotlight at the top of the tower and move the beam randomly around the property in case of hobbits

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

That's totally where I thought they were going with that.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 21 hours ago

Do nothing, watch nature claim it back.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Vineyards around here have set up wedding venues. People pay stupid amounts of money for weddings. If you can set up a few areas that are particularly photogenic you'd be good. Much of the land you could just leave to nature, which could be a huge part of the appeal. Make a few trails and like 2-3 buildings for the wedding and reception.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Disked fields would imply a unproductive field sold off to make up losses so I wouldn't count on his soul quality unless you're willing to do deep ground aeration and nutrient injection or simply wait longer then you'll likely have left.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Attract people with the true promise of very cheap, simple, communal living, free from the pressures of capitalist society, a shared belief system, and/or a common ideology.

Offer free workshops on useful skills like food storage and survival techniques, meditation, prayer, self-sufficiency, trauma counseling and drug and alcohol rehabilitation

Restrict calories by setting meal times and durations.

Make sure there is enough work so that everyone is busy all the time

Restrict movement by having mandatory meetings, meditation sessions, or chores at particular times throughout the day so nobody has time to go to town.

Erode individual identity with common dress, common food, common hairstyles etc.

Identify and keep track of individual weaknesses (Trauma, parental issues, weight insecurity, financial insecurity, fear of failure, fear of abandonment mental illness), key motivations (Financial stability, seeking to be apart from society, seeking happiness), basic desires (financial security, relationship security, being part of a community, sex)

Make extensive use of seed phrases and formal speech rules so that people censor their own speech. EG Each must greet the other with 'Good day, good evening, good morning, etc. As innocuous as this sounds, it forces interactions to begin on a predictable footing, and guides conversation along predictable lines. Said often enough, the formal 'Good morning' excludes the possibility that anything bad has happened, is happening, or might happen. People cannot speak to children and vice versa without a parent present (very handy if you take in runaways that have no parents), unmarried men and women may not be alone together except when courting, new members must have a guide/buddy/chaperone/mentor/elder present with them at all times for the duration of their probation.

Maintain division by requiring individuals to report non-conformity by others, make non-reporting of non-conformity a punishable act, and make non-conformity a poorly defined and easily applied term, so that everyone is guilty, and you as the leader get to pick and choose who is punished.

Punishments are gentle tightening of above restrictions - more work, less food, less interpersonal contact, less free time, more proselytizing etc.

Reward extravagantly those who recruit others, using free time, more food, more freedom, sex with other members as a reward.

Reward extravagantly revenue-generating activities, manufacturing, labor, producing food, donating money or assets, or illicit income such as burglary and shoplifting .

Enjoy your cult.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Are you at work? This is enough lemmy for the day

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You forgot some important aspects:

People will have to give you all their belongings. They will have nothing if they ever want to leave. This can be done by making them pay for the workshops, with levels each more expensive then the other, making them not wanting to give up since they are already this far in and makes them give you everything they have to reach the next level. They must do so, otherwise they won't have true devotion and they will risk punishment and have fear of being expelled. Look at Scientology, NXIVM.

They need to break ties with friends and relatives. Isolate them, so they have no one to return to if they ever want to leave. True isolation, with only you to lead them. They cannot trust anyone else, they cannot trust themselves. Only you. Again, Scientology.

Reward and punish them, but haphazardly, you don't want to be predictable. This way they will do anything to get rewarded and are super scared to be punished. Break them down mentally, then build them up again according to your strict plan. Controlling their food and sleep helps (deprive them). They will follow you blindly and give up everything. See the documentary Stolen Youth on Hulu.

What many cults do wrong, is not having a business plan. You need income, so make them work for something you can sell. See the documentary Wild Wild Country on Netflix, they did this perfectly. You have basically free labor so you can compete in many markets.

And don't forget you need good propaganda. You need new members, they need to think everything is super happy and they will learn new things about themselves (they will, after you break them first). Have a PR division, don't be scared to pay someone properly to do this. Look at NXIVM, Scientology.

There's a documentary about NXIVM called:

  • The Vow

Documentaries listed above:

  • Wild Wild Country
  • Stolen youth (this one was heavy on me)

Other documentaries to watch:

  • Love has won, the cult of mother God (this one is really fucked up)
  • The way down
  • Escaping utopia
  • Raël
  • The deep end
  • Breath of fire
  • The program
  • Escaping twin flames
  • Kumaré
  • Prophet's prey
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Marketing.

But first you need the idea. I'd say leftwing based religious science compatible apocalyptics is an untapped market. So basically make a bunker commune for societal collapse based on climate change and say all the current right wing politicians are demons accelerating it to bring upon hell on earth, and that oil is the devil's blood.

Just off the top of my head that's an idea.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Sell it and remember that you first figure out what you want and then you buy the suitable land for it.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Plant potatoes. Charge rich families to come out and harvest potatoes as a "total farm experience". Sell them as a "rustic handgrown" crop.

Take the profit and buy a shit ton of meth and smoke until your heart explodes. Die with a smile as you escape late stage capitalism ✨️

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they would totally dig that shit up and call it an experience too. Do it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately though I think OP being an hour from an airport is gonna preclude tourists from being a financial factor in the area.

And there was so much meth to be had...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Good marketing can sort that out. You call the experience "authentic" and hire some attractive actors to do a couple photo shoots. Maybe add a shuttle and a little café like touristy vineyards do. And if you're really good you can figure out a way to get the tourists to make meth for you. Say they have to bring certain ingredients with them, in addition to the crazy expensive entry fee.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What's the legality of that land?

Where I live there's no way a plot of land is suited for both farming and a Hotel.

If you build something in a place where residential/commercial buildings are not allowed you are in for a lot of troubles.

If the weather provides the safest bet for the most profit would probably be plant some easy trees or some plant that would not need a lot of caring, and just sell the products.

That for money. If I were you and I had money to throw I would just built a retire House for myself and collect my returns in peace of mind and health. But then again, residential buildings may not be allowed there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

These "laws" are just manmade constructs, I only trust the word of god. (And god told me to build a compound and fill it with devotees and guns)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

What will people do there? The same thing people have done for 10,000 years. Alcohol, sex, and games.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Take a tupperware container set and test the water supplied to the field for PH value using a pack of litmus papers, then test the four corners and center of your field by scooping up some dirt, adding some water, and testing with litmus paper. Next, drain out the water and let it evaporate and look for signs of crystalization or condensates. Seal some of your soil samples to see if a healthy soil biome blooms in the sample, fungus and such.

A good healthy soil will have a strong biome. It and its water supply should be close to PH 6 to 7 for most tall grass and similar crops. There should be little to no saline in your soil, signs of that might indicate a brine pit forming in the water table near your land.

The most valuable single-season crops are crops that you can process yourself rather than selling to a granary. For examples: milled flour, corn byproducts, alcoholic ingredients, beets for sugar, bamboo, or switchgrass fermented into propionic acid biofuel. The major downside to being your own processor is that you're also your own distributor which is very difficult.

Sometimes subsidies make unprofitable crops profitable, sometimes granaries or local brewers offer a good price for specific crops. Be sure to check the local market thoroughly.

Make sure to join up with any farming groups in your area and get insured for any farming you do. Also get somebody to provide some bee boxes.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

There's some great ideas in this thread but sadly I think most of them are fairly high risk.

Doing anything in this kind of scope is going to cost a lot of capital. If it goes wrong all that money is gone.

I would lease it to a farmer.

Maybe reserve a corner where you can build up some basic facilities. I'm not sure what's popular where you are but here in Australia you can find places like this on hipcamp where you can camp for a few dollars a day.

Use your income to build basic facilities over time. Toilets, showers, kitchen, solar.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

Pawlonia trees. Fastest growing wood in the world

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Sell 1x1 foot squares of it in a vending machine at a random gas station in the middle of nowhere.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Plant some dang trees for starters, unless it's only going to be land used for farming.

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