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[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 minutes ago

Here's the original for anyone curious:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

Titties is spelled with two t's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

you spelled it with three so what the hell do you know

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Not in that universe. They probably also say parmesan funny.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Not the lizard's ones.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's fictional, he writes how he wants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yep. TITTIES. See, I even just wrote them bigger.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

I don't think your lizard woman has a working spine. Nice drawing tho

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I am specifically going to put big tiddied lizard women in my next D&D campaign and they will sell Lizard Milk to the PCs.

It's not any weirder than the lizard people technically being trees in The Elder Scrolls.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that more of a "from them we come and to them we will return" thing than literally them being a type of tree?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I thought it was a symbiotic relationship kind of thing where the trees are spookier than you might like

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago

There's not enough information to know. They're either spooky or the least spooky things on the planet, and only the writers know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Hey that's a khajiit thing!

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Elder Scrolls have an in-universe explanation for their titty lizards:

The Hist Trees created the Argonians by calling forth the animals of the swamp, combining their genomes, and mutating them into the Argonian race.

This is also why they have gills, lungs, horns, vocal cords, thumbs, and various reptillian features with no consensus. It is not clarified whether or not Argonians are capable of reproduction without the Hist, but the vast majority of Argonians are born from eggs ritualistically mutated by the Hist.

Also, it's just a lot easier from a game design perspective if they use the same models as other characters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

So this explanation wasn’t canon as of Morrowind as I recall.

So one mod, something like “Better Clothes” retextured the outfits and cleaned up some of the meshes.

It also added an entire system to “correct” the Argonian titties issue. Most merchants sold a “sewing kit” which would correct the mesh to switch to the flat model. All female Argonians had a dialogue option to adjust their clothing, in case a script had failed to fire.

(Oblivion has had mods which alter Khajiit breasts in… more “feline” ways…)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well I do know of a certain maid that would probably be eager to help find out how capable of reproduction they are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's canon that the Lusty Argonian Maid is one of the oldest written works in Tamriel. It's like the Epic of Gilgamesh of Tamriel, they just keep finding older copies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is that canon in the sense of it existing in the game set earliest in in-universe history, or is it canon in the sense that there's in-universe research about it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

The second one, there are some historian notes about how the modern play is different from archeological records of the story, they can be read in the game ESO.

Also, ESO takes place chronologically before TES:III, TES:IV, and TES:V

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

So the retconned Uncle Crassius into a plagiarist????

How dare they malign the reputation of the man who makes you trade erotic favors for faction advancement!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Neat.

Maybe I should start playing ESO again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

Same. I still play once in a while, but after getting Codwell's gold I lost motivation to play. I just kind of hop on once in a great while to pay the stableman, check my sales, research crafting perks. The endgame is geared towards group play and I never got into any groups.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Since people seem to enjoy this comment I'm going to talk more about why the Hists are the dominant species of Tamriel.

The hist is a connected hivemind also capable of individuality when separated from each other. In the past multiple Hist Trees have been moved to other planes of oblivion, such as the vampiric hist tree in the realm of Molag Baal which eventually commits suicide or other hist trees which exist in the oblivion plane Umbriel after they escaped the clutches of Clavicus Vile.

The hist is capable of communicating directly with people via psychic connection, through dreams, through magic devices (which it is capable of crafting itself), or even through wind and windchimes. The hist is also capable of taking souls which would otherwise be captured and storing them within itself for safekeeping even against ancient and powerful elven technology.

Sometimes the Hist sleeps, or weakens due to outside interferences, causing entire generations to go without hearing its' voice. Some argonians entirely lack the ability to communicate with the Hist. However, the Hist is still capable of communicating with other races if it chooses to.

The Hist has an ancient history with the elves who created Tamriel and who were fooled into sacrificing their immortality. Some modern elves depict Argonians as servants created for slavery by the elves rather than accepting the sovereignty of the Hist or even the sentience of the Argonians. Multiple uprisings have occurred as the Argonians endure assault and enslavement throughout the ages, their subservience solely to the hist preventing them from organizing against anything less than an existential threat. The Hists differ greatly from the Wyrd Tree and traditional elven nature spirits, the Ehlnofey, who are a chosen few of the ancestors of all elves tasked by the Bosmeri god Y'ffre of song and nature whose presence is still felt in the regions ruled by the Green Pact, which is a sentient forest comparable to the Hist network. It's assumed that all of these things are interconnected in their origins but it's never been elaborated how or why.

Some popular unconfirmed fan theories are that the ancient elves never stopped researching ways to regain their immortality. One method they pursued was becoming one with nature, producing the Hist as a byproduct of that research, which was actually successful in the cases of Y'ffre and also the Wyrd Tree. This theory also accepts that the Dunmer's collective instantaneous disappearance from Tamriel was a result of similar research, that they basically raptured themselves. The Dark Elves of morrowind were also successful at creating a Divine vessel, whose parts were scattered in a daedric plot and divided amongst the three living gods of morrowind.

During the Planemeld Crisis and again during the Oblivion Gate Crisis the Argonians were the racial factions whose territory suffered the least. The Argonians actually invaded Oblivion in both events and overran the Daedre.

Do not fight the Hists. You will lose.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Holy shit, this guy Elder Scrolls!

Just curious, where did you learn all of that lore from exactly? Was it purely from the quest lines and game lore books? Or was it an external source of any kind?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

If you're looking for more ES lore check out fudgemuppet and camelworks on youtube, sometimes I'll listen to those instead of podcasts

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can find some of it spread thinly throughout the main games and on the wiki but by far the largest source of mostly-canonical written lore is from the Elder Scrolls Online which contains tons of related quests and 7,012 ingame lore-books of which I have only read a small fraction of.

The Hist and Argonians I think are just one of those fascinating pieces of fantasy fiction that a great many people have made entire video essays about.

EDIT: Note that ESO chronologically takes place during the Planemeld and before the Oblivion crisis, so you won't find any of that lore in there except for the bits as they happen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

vampiric hist tree in the realm of Molag Baal

So... I know who he is and how vampires are created. Did he... Uh, transform the tree?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Since vampyrism can be contracted via spell he probably didn't have to do much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

Yeah, but he's not really about only doing what he has to do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does this kind of depth not make it into their games anymore?

Rhetorical question, we all know why.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

The real answer is Michael Kirkbride left Bethesda right after doing all the legwork that led up to Skyrim. The man is reportedly difficult to work with but he is a world building genius.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Who doesn't love snilk? It's even lactose-free!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, if it's a lizard woman then she already is a mixture of mammal (human) and lizard - why shouldn't the secondary sexual characteristics be more on the human side?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Reptiles don't have sexual dimorphism?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, they do. Females are larger and in my experience a bit more aggressive across many species, bearded dragons have sex defined coloration, geckoes are one of the easiest groups to determine sex imo considering the males have nearly external testes and larger, broader heads

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

It's a drawing, it's fantasy!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What I wanted to say was: if it's a lizard that shows human traits (speech, walking upright, tool use, human intelligence) why is it bad to add more human/mammal traits like breasts?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It's not bad, but I've seen it put this way:

It's quite easy to believe a species of reptile could conceivably end up standing upright and having a similar body shape to us, as there's nothing in the defining features of a reptile that are broken by that concept

But mammary glands (tiddies) are quite literally what makes a mammal a mammal, giving it to a reptile is going to raise a question to those aware of these definitions

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woman isn't a sex, it's a gender. Reptiles don't have gender.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hey look, it's the kid in art class.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

No, I love lizard tiddies

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago

You left out the best part, the explanation:

Throwback to when AI bros were saying they were digital artists because they both used technology to make art.

So as a digital artist I found a rock, burnt some sticks, and made a busty dragoness out of nothing but shit I had in my backyard.

Nothing will stop real artists from making real art.

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