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Donald Trump’s interim Social Security chief suggested Thursday night he will effectively turn off the agency that manages the essential safety net program for seniors and the disabled, if Elon Musk and his so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) can’t access the non-anonymized sensitive personal information and data of hundreds of millions of Americans, based on a judge’s order.

“My anti-fraud team would be DOGE affiliates. My IT staff would be DOGE affiliates,” said Lee Dudek, acting Social Security Administration (SSA) commissioner, arguing the order was too broad, according to Bloomberg News. “As it stands, I will follow it exactly and terminate access by all SSA employees to our IT systems,” he said, adding: “Really, I want to turn it off and let the courts figure out how they want to run a federal agency.”

Dudek’s threat to block SSA employees from using the agency’s IT systems — a move that could halt Social Security payments — came in response to a judge’s temporary restraining order in a case brought by the AFL-CIO labor union. The order bars Social Security Administration officials from allowing DOGE, including Musk, and the SSA’s DOGE team to access personally identifiable information. It also directs Musk and DOGE to delete from their possession all non-anonymized personal data, and bars them from having access to SSA computers or code.

Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander wrote that the SSA had likely violated administrative and privacy laws when it gave DOGE “unbridled access to the personal and private data of millions of Americans, including but not limited to Social Security numbers, medical records, mental health records, hospitalization records, drivers’ license numbers, bank and credit card information, tax information, income history, work history, birth and marriage certificates, and home and work addresses.”

She added that the “defendants, with so-called experts on the DOGE Team, never identified or articulated even a single reason for which the DOGE Team needs unlimited access to SSA’s entire record systems, thereby exposing personal, confidential, sensitive, and private information that millions of Americans entrusted to their government.”


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

If they want to find out what violent revolution looks like, then they can go right ahead and stop social security.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 hours ago

Do it Trump. We fucking dare you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

SSS: Stealing Social Security so they can fund the billionaires tax cut

[–] [email protected] 78 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

That’s the move that will send people over the edge. What a ridiculously stupid administration

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Unfortunately it won’t. Too many people didn’t learn, and learn from, history. They’ll watch as their freedoms are eroded away in the name of “making America great,” and then cry about how everything got so bad as if they had nothing to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think you underestimate the rage of old white people.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 hours ago

I think we also might be forgetting how much control the Right Wing Propaganda Machine has on their people. They’ll blame ‘activist judges’ on the gaps in service, which in turn will mean more violence against those judges.

It’s not an easy discussion here. All outcomes are bad, and that’s exactly what the Trump Administration has created, a situation where they win regardless. The shutdown? They’d continue to gut agencies and force funding to their toadies anyway. This situation? They’ll blame the Dems and Activist Judges for it. The failing economy and stock market due to tariffs? Biden’s fault.

That’s partly why we see the Dems slow walking a response, there aren’t clear avenues of attack here when their enemy holds all three branches in power, has the freedom to break every law and ignore the constitution, and has a massive state sponsored propaganda machine that their followers believe is the gospel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

I dunno, killing entitlements is the only thing that seems to energize a lot of them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Y’all, it would make me ecstatic to be completely wrong with this hot take. I guess it’s a combination of my lack of faith in the citizenship to give enough of a shit, and my lack of faith in our government to listen.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I'm convinced they want civil eruption to declare martial law, call off elections, and seal the deal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If they do, we will have reached the point that there is nothing left to lose except our lives.

I say let them do it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

I’m convinced that when that happens everyone will allow it like they continue to do.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

At this point, they don’t need martial law to call off elections anymore, it’s already done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Elections still happen at that time. Elections happened during the last civil war

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

That's a complete fantasy. It will never happen

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

I’m reminded of this every time someone gives an ultimatum with Trump.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

They will blame Democrats, saying that wokeism is preventing DOGE from running things efficiently, or something. And people will lap it up and get angry at the wrong people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

I don't think they will this time. Republican representatives have already had to stop holding town halls because their districts are so pissed off at Musk and DOGE.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

We’ll witness the first president to be killed by aarp death squads

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Reminds me of that south park episode.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

From your keyboard to fate’s ears. Him and everyone pushing this Project 2025 bs.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago

We've already seen how these types of scenarios play out:

  • If DOGE isn't given access to SSA's systems, SSA will fuck over everyone who relies on them and MAGA will blame democrats for their unwillingness to negotiate
  • If DOGE does get access to SSA's systems, they'll hold hostage everyone in the country and MAGA will blame Biden for bad security and accuse democrats of weakening national security to sabotage President Mu/mp
  • If somehow everything magically works out okay, it'll be because Mu/mp is the greatest smartest bestest president of all time and deserves a third term

This is not an argument for doing nothing, just a forewarning to brace for undue blowback.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago

Do it, see what happens. You wanna actually see a million people overrun the Whitehouse security? This is how you do it. Martial law ain't gonna stop half the country driving into Washington DC.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 hours ago

LOL as usual, trying to spin it like it's the people's own fault they're getting robbed blind. the worst thing is that the maga cultist sheep will lap it up like hogs at the trough, willingly handing over every last right they didn't even know they had, while calling themselves the party of "individual liberty and freedom"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 hours ago

These fuckers holding our government hostage…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

“Really, I want to turn it off and let the courts figure out how they want to run a federal agency.”

They've done that...

It's just not how he wants it to be run...

Meanwhile, Dudek was fired for disobeying SSA as a mid level staffer in favor of DOGE, so trump made him the head:

https://abc17news.com/politics/national-politics/cnn-us-politics/2025/02/22/how-a-mid-level-staffer-rose-to-oversee-the-social-security-administration-within-days/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Can you not degrade pussy by comparing it to Trump? Thanks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah asshole. I actually like pussy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Sorry i can't of a degrading word that isn't lower than republican... No offense to pussys.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Do it, I'll grab the popcorn.