Ask Lemmy

I think they're a goddamn idiot. I like it more when people tell me that they don't have enough time to think about this shit and so they don't have an opinion.

"I believe good things but don't want to actually sacrifice anything or be responsible for any of my actions that my prevent good things from happening"

I prefer to use the term fiscally responsible.

It's fiscally irresponsible to cut taxes for the billionaires and corporations when we have record deficits.

It's fiscally irresponsible to cut the IRS budget when that results in less revenue.

Republican voters have been brainwashed into thinking that Republicans are somehow more responsible with the economy and budget, when history shows that Republicans drive up the deficit with irresponsible tax cuts.

Someone who is a conservative who has a gay friend or a gay kid that they love and accept.

"Socially liberal" right up until the point that we start talking about worker's rights, the dignity of poor people, and the exploitation of cheap slave labor on the other side of the world

"I dont mind the gays, but I keep voting for Fascists because right wing talking points about how Unions make the prices of eggs go up."

I don't want to be included with the rest of the domestic terrorists in my political party.

Usually they are lying. It means they hate poor people.

"I'm simple and don't bother to look deeper into anything"

As someone who said this when they were younger

"Uninformed idiot"

now that I'm older I'm fully liberal since i am more informed.

"I pay lip service to minorities, but don't want to allocate resources to their needs"

Every discussion I've had with someone who said this has led me to expect ignorance. I think its something people who don't know much like to say because they think it sounds good.

If they're American I would point out that they have no representation for their conservative views because there is no fiscally conservative party in the United States.

"I vote Republican, but I'm self-aware enough to know that I should be embarrassed about it." (In the US)

So many people with such brutal takes on it -- helps to quantify who the audience is on lemmy I guess.

Socially liberal fiscally conservative, to me at least, means that the person is in favour of equality in the sense of equality of treatment from the government, but is not in favour of additional big spending projects to try and have equality of opportunity. They're pro-choice, but likely against the government funnelling money into providing abortions for women (so abortions available, but not gov subsidized). They're pro-trans rights in terms of being fine with whoever doing whatever they want with their body/partners of choice, but against government paying for trans-specific gender affirming procedures and parades to highlight those groups. They're in favour of things like universal medicare/dental care, because those programs are shown to be a net benefit fiscally and socially.

In general, they support socially progressive ideas, so long as they're fiscally costed out and beneficial to the public purse. They're against increased government spending / reach, preferring 'small government', with the social components placed more on individuals to fund directly.

They don't want to pay money for social spending they don't realize they benefit from while wearing the costume of an ally.

“I’m a republican, and I will consistently, and wrongly, vote in what I think are the best interests of my wallet while paying lip service to liberal social ideals. “

"I don't care about minorities enough to sacrifice anything about my way of living."

"I'm an uninformed idiot."

Conservatives are fiscally reckless. Look at every conservative president's deficit spending, and economic crashes. Look at the states most dependent on federal funds.

Even if you had zero morals and voted 100% on fiscal policies, the best choice is very clearly not conservative.

You have no party if you are American as our conservative movement abandoned any form of fiscal responsibility 30-40 years ago. When was the last time a tax cut was paired with a reduction in spending? Oh yeah that last happened in 1983

C-c-c-conservative combo-breaker!

Edit: Sorry, I just wanted to say that. But I do think that falls under right wing with a sprinkle of social moderate leftism but even so, the debate of "can gays have the same rights as all of us" takes away from the ultimate leftist pov of "we should all have better material conditions as a class, including minorities".

Edit 2: and fiscally conservative is ofc "you keep whatever pennies you may or may not have, I got money Idgaf I'm not giving it away" which is the misunderstood antithesis of the concept of the far left.

“I don’t hate women and minorities but I don’t see anything wrong with an economy built off of their exploitation.”

"I'm an upper middle class asshole but Republicans are terrible company and won't smoke weed with me"

Just buncha utter bollocks

They want to virtue signal trivial social issues to avoid admitting they're just plain conservative.

I think the person saying it wants to avoid family or acquaintances giving them shit for not sharing their political views.

Most of my family is very conservative stereotype vile people. I've heard that exact phrase from the few left leaning relatives as they try to wigle out of unconfortable conversations. I myself am the black sheep that just tells the repugnicans that their views disgust me.

"I don't hate you because you're a POC, a woman, or queer. I hate you because you're poor."

"But in practice, I almost certainly vote Republican."

I think in terms of American politics this means you are buying the shit that both sides are peddling to distract you from what the actual problems are and what is actually causing them

“Sure the problems are bad, but the causes? The causes are good.”

Raging asshole.

Either "I hate poor people but I love weed" or "I'm lying because my actual views would scare people off".

"I don't actively hunt members of marginalized communities with one of my many obnoxiously customized firearms but I still have a weird kink for giving tax cuts to billionaires in exchange for a worsened quality of life because I have a 12 year old's understanding of how the world works."

"I like pot and hookers and pretend I'm better at managing money than you."