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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It’s never been a better time to switch to [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 80 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's important to note that this is them moving in-development branches/features "behind closed doors", not making Android closed source. Whenever a feature is ready they then merge it publicly. I know this community tends to be filled with purists, many of whom are well informed and reasoned, but I'm actually totally fine with this change. This kind of structure isn't crazy uncommon, and I imagine it's mainly an effort to stop tech journalists analysing random in-progress features for an article. Personally, I wouldn't want to develop code with that kind of pressure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Not only that, the Android Police article mentions they had a lot of trouble merging the internal branches and the public branches, so I’m guessing as time went on they’ve diverged more and more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why would you want people to test your software on all sorts of random hardware when you could just pay people to test it on a smaller scale!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

C'mon, that's what PR's, RCs, and betas are for

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Lots of people make a PR very early though, just to keep track of development and have a space to jot down thoughts and ideas, and get feedback during.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

I'm not a fan, but I understand it and am generally okay with it. I still wish it all happened in the open like Linux.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 days ago (2 children)

PostmarketOS can't happen fast enough

LineageOS, & GrapheneOS hopefully will still be good for now

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a GrapheneOS user I'm with you on this. Hopefully this won't negatively impact the development of GOS. I feel like it will though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I wonder how this will affect Ubuntu Touch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If google where to close android it'll undoubtedly be forked. Pretty sure the likes of Graphene and Calyx will be fine for the forseeable future.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and google will be doing everything they can to grow incompatibility and make maintaining an open fork impossible. don't forget that google employs devs for pay, but fork maintainers are doing it as a hobby, out of passion, while already working somewhere. It's a bit similar to matrix, its homeservers and clients. the spec and the software evolves slowly, but its still too fast for alt implementations

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Google can only do that if they can maintain grip on the market. This requires the likes of Samsung, who also contribyte to android, to move with them to their then propiatary solution. Google is not going to win this just with their Pixels.

Google closing android would ruffle a lot of feathers so it definitely wouldn't be a given they would come out of that on top.

Apple has no problem existing outside of Google's sphere of influence. And honestly if the android market would split and you'd get legitimately google-less phones with large app stores that google doesn't control that would be fairly beneficial if you ask me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This requires the likes of Samsung to move with them to their then propiatary solution. Google is not going to win this just with their Pixels.

I don't see why samsung wouldn't accept this change. do they make use of the AOSP project? if they do, wouldn't they be able to make a deal with Google to have access to the code?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean. They could go with google and most ideally change nothing, or stay with the open source project and try to cut out a slice of the appstore pie for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Boiling the frog, slowly... As more of these terrible decisions keep stifling Android up to a point where it becomes just a vessel to Google's proprietary garbage (as it has been the case for many years already for a lot of things), it should be a wake up call for mobile Linux to keep improving and do it faster.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know anything about Android AOSP, so I found this clarification important:

This does not mean that Google is making Android a closed-source platform, but rather that the open-source aspect will only be released when a new branch is released to AOSP with those changes, including when new full versions or maintenance releases are finished.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

Yes, there will still be the aosp repository as open-source. It will have some lag, but still there. Thus said, Google has moved a lot of things into the Google Play services over the years (closed sources). So, who knows what's next! Let's praise that some companies inject money / devs into postmarketos!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago

From AOSP to AP

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Click bait headline.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

With this happenning and apple getting extorted to accept third party apps it would be funny if they switch places

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Surprised pikachu face... they've been closing Android bit by bit every year, everybody knows their real intent is to turn it into closed source.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

They are closing nothing here. It's the equivalent of the developer doing local commits and delaying the public pull request.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I trust them. They showed that they only care for their customers and not for maximizing profits.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Google's main goal is privacy and costumers happiness, Trump's is democracy and Putin's is peace.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You must be from a parallel universe where Google actually followed through with their "Don't be evil" motto.

Here Google scrapes every last atom of data from all of its users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

For some people sarcasm is a unknown thing.