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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Conflating zionist state of israel with the jewish people is anti-semitism. Israel does not represent all jewish people worldwide.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

#MODS MODS THIS MAN RIGHT HERE 😭

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can sort of see how they got there, but I don't think any nation has the right to exist. I'm sure if you swapped it with any other nation they wouldn't remove it.

PTB from flat.world as usual.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sorry for not seeing this earlier. Work was hell today.

Your correct. This isn't racism. I'm reinstating your comment now.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

.world is a festering mess of liberalism, you say?

Colour me surprised.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The place that banned all criticism of Biden/Harris and then wondered where all the critics went, justifying their bad beliefs that all of them were bots? Yeah I wonder why its a shitlib utopia.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don’t actually recall the .world mods or admins themselves calling people bots, and I’ve recently seen them removing comments containing bot accusations.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The admins don't, but a lot of the userbase used to (and still does) calls anyone who mildly criticized Harris as a secret Russian asset/bot, or a useful idiot who bought into the campaign.

When Biden was bad at the debate and I said "Man he looks so unfit for this" I was called a russian bot. I reported the comments and nothing got removed or banned.

And I recently got banned from [email protected] because I defended myself from a moronic shitlib troll. The troll didn't get banned, I did.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Ethno-states run by power-tripping pigs have no right to exist.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

PTB. .world's stances continue to be completely indistinguishable from State Department propaganda. I guess it was only a matter of time until the mods started cracking down on anti-Zionism. Fully expect to see them ban someone for promoting BDS next.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would be hillarious if they put an anti-BDS clause in the .world terms of service.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, they should just make users recite the Pledge of Allegiance to sign up.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

PTB*.

That said you're biting obvious bait - a good chunk of those discussions boil down to ambiguous words referring to both actual human beings and states/governments, to defend the later as if it was an attack on the former.

*LATER EDIT: upon the mod reinstating the comment, I'm changing my judgment to CLM.

And it's worth noting the judgment only applies to the comment shown in the original post - since the user in question is clearly eager to lie in order to accuse others, and their behaviour borders concern trolling.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, people called Israel exist.

But from the thread the comment was placed in, it should be clear I was talking about the apartheid colonizing Palestine. Not a persons right to existence

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (11 children)

It was clear for me, too. However, a lot of people struggle to tell apart two things when you use the same word to refer to them, and that's one of those cases.

My suggestion in this regard is to always use "state of Israel" instead. You'll still get some bans, but it becomes harder for supporters of the genocidal state to claim "no, ur teh 1 defending genoside".

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I mean... it's an illegitimate state after all.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

I left .world a while ago, I didn't leave Reddit to put up with the same bullshit on Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

YDI

I mean ... That statement itself isn't just anti-zionist. You literally say a whole group of people should not exist. It's only not technically racist because it's a religious slant, not a racial one. It's still hateful.

I am pro-Palestinian, too. That doesn't mean I think all Israelis should die.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

That's completely ridiculous. How the hell do you get from "Israel doesn't have a right to exist" to "all Israelis should die?" Israel is a state, saying it doesn't have a right to exist is opposing the state, the same way if I said "Nazi Germany doesn't have a right to exist" I'm not calling for everyone in Nazi Germany to be put to death, I'm calling for the elimination of the state.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Israel is a terrorist organization not a group of people.

My statement is the literal definition of anti-Zionism.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Well that’s great, but they didn’t say Israelis should die either, so I dunno why you’re claiming they did.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah the mods of the news Community being in favor of fascism doesn't surprise me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Clueless mod.

While the comment definitely needed removal, that's not a form of racism.

https://phys.org/news/2025-04-subreddits-highlights-hidden-ways-speech.html

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While the comment definitely needed removal

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Sure.

The only people that regularly say that Israel doesn't have a right to exist are stirring shit, it isn't a good faith argument. It never, ever, leads to a good conversation where everyone stays chill and on topic.

There's the implication that jews have no right to a homeland of some kind, which is probably why they attributed it to racism (antisemitism), but it isn't necessarily about that. It could be, I don't know your stance in that regard, but it's definitely anti Israeli, which is a fairly pernicious loophole, imo.

If you're saying that no nation has a right to exist, fine, cool, maybe saying that would have been a better choice. But you can't pretend you don't know that that rhetoric is also slung around by antisemites.

Now, I gotta add my usual warning here. This community isn't the place to debate the issue itself. I'm not going to go any further than what's needed to explain my opinion regarding PTB or not. There's a solid community for continuing to debate topics that get locked, and others for political debates in general, if that's your bag.

Edit: dog whistles and how they spread is not a new idea. I didn't come up with it. And, busy today This was released.

Anyone thinking that dog whistles shouldn't be removed by mods is blind. It's a major problem on the internet. It doesn't matter who or what the dog whistle targets, it's the fact that it is a tool of bigotry that spreads like a disease, even through places and people that aren't bigots. That's the problem with coded language. It's viral and pernicious.

The fact that anyone even saw the need to try and study it should be a clear indicator that when a mod, or a user scrolling by, sees a dog whistle in the wild like this, it can't just be shrugged off as unimportant.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Jews don't have the right to kill other people and steal their land. Nobody has a Reicht to do that. This is not a "controversial" viewpoint.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

By that argument no countries have a right to exist.

By singling out Israel people will assume you’re pushing the same antisemitic line.

Make better arguments and maybe that won’t be so easily swatted down.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No settler colony has a right to exist. If you believe people have the right to kill Palestinians and steal their land because "they're Jewish", then you are the racist.

This is akin to removing comments saying Russia has no right to colonize Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Stop putting words in my mouth.

If you say “X has no right to exist” you’re going to get shut down because it’s a lazy inflammatory argument.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am not putting words in your mouth your argument is complete nonsense

Since you still don't get it let's do a 1 for 1 comparison and swap for Israel with another religious ethogroup which murders civilians because it believes it has a right to a historical land.

Does ISIS-K have a right to exist in Syria?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

By that argument no countries have a right to exist.

Correct. Borders are lines drawn in the sand because of modern warlords called politicians.

By singling out Israel people will assume you’re pushing the same antisemitic line.

"No one has the right to murder for land gain."

"That's wildly antisemitic!"

"I'm talking about Russia attacking Ukraine."

Murder and war is bad. It's not unique to Israel that murder is bad, because bloodshed is bad when any nation does it in the name of nationalism, and genocide.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only people that regularly say that Israel doesn’t have a right to exist are stirring shit,

Israel doesn't have a right to exist.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

That's a lot of assumptions there. There are many reasons to believe that Israel has no right to exist that aren't connected to bigotry or racism. You could say a state of a single religion in power in detriment of other religions and peoples is a recipe for disaster, as it invariably disenfranchises part of what a real, non curated (read, oppressed/victim of genocide) population is, since there is no place in the world with open borders in which there is only one religion, unless enforced somehow. You could say other religions are allowed to exist in Israel, but we all know they don't get the same rights as those of the jewish faith or even safety.

The homeland of Jews is the same homeland of Christians or Muslims or Buddhists. A free, democratic, secular land is home of us all. My homeland is home for Jews if they so wish it. To create special bubbles for religions, such as a country for a single religion, is antithetical to democracy, freedom of religion and secularism. It's simply backwards thinking. Those are the values of the culture of a great deal of people and it's only normal they reject the antithesis of those values. Sure, there are many countries with primacy for a single religion, and their system is, imo, not any more right than what Israel is.

Then, you have the way of how that land was appropriated and how it continues to be appropriated. There is no plan in the near or medium future for Israel that does not involve mass murder and repossession. To accept the existence of Israel is to accept their current ethos. There were decades of chances and proposals for a two state solution or a one state secular solution, but they didn't happen and they aren't happening, so for many the question boils down to, are you ok with wholesale genocide of the Palestinians in order for Israel to exist ? Because as of this current moment, one thing explicitly implies the other. Not per se, but taking into account the entire history of the modern state of Israel and the plans of its current administration.

I think thinking this way is dismissing an entire swath of legitimate expressions of political opinions that aren't necessarily motivated by hatred of a religion or a race of people. I find it perfectly legitimate to consider Zionism and Israel toxic colonialist ideologies that have not brought and will never bring anything good to the world, but really, it depends on the context of before and after.

I could also consider that any person who thinks Israel has a right to exist is also expressing racism towards Palestinians, since for Israel to exist with their current plans, Palestinians must become stateless or be killed. However, i understand this issue is more complicated than that, since there are a myriad of reasons why someone could be thinking that. For instance, they could be thinking of a possible future where Israeli magically become human and stop indiscriminately murdering civilians, most of which children, then out of the goodness of their hearts spare an economically viable continuous stretch of land where Palestinians can exist in peace and make it illegal for wild settlers to drive them away from it. Like my dear, lovable and gullible EU does. For me personally I'd probably even disregard how much i idealogically disagree with the entire concept of Zionism, if genocide was off the table. I have the heart to try and accept other cultures, flawed as i may find them, but genocide i cannot.

Anyway, long story short, despite being used by antisemites, rejecting Israel or Zionism in itself is not evidence enough for racism or antisemitism and my opinion is that attempts of doing so are merely tools to groom public discourse away from the real problem of the ongoing genocide. Don't take my word for it, hear the thousands of jews worldwide who came out to express just this feeling.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

There can be some arguments made in good faith against existence of Israel.

Israel exists because of one of the last follies of colonial empires before they stopped having enough push for this kind of things. It was created by displacing whole peoples based on agreement made over their heads. Continued existence of Israel has shown that it’s an apartheid expansionist state built on a dangerous mixture of religious zealotry and nationalism.

I think Germans should make their last „sorry guys” and give them some land. I know it wasn’t feasible before because Jews were scared of their oppressors but you can’t say Germans are in any shape or form antisemitic these days. I guess Middle Eastern immigrants in Germany would take an some issue with that but that’s German domestic politics. Then Germans can stop feeling sorry and they can also stop supplying weapons to kill Palestinians.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

PTB

Zionists are on the wrong side of history

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