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I don't care if it's in a shitposting community, a meme community, or a news community. If the image or text is generated it should be labeled as such, and failing to label it should be grounds to remove the post. AI slop is a plague and its only going to get worse as the tech matures (if it hasn't already peaked).

I'm so tired of having to call it out every time I see it, especially when people in the comments think it's a photoshop work or (heavens help us) real. Human labor has real tangible value that plagiarism machines can't even pretend to imitate and I'm sick of seeing that shit without it being labeled (so I can filter it out).

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

You would think so, but in my experience so far most group admins don’t give a shit, or even like it.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

AI slop should be banned in general

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think people should be free to choose whatever they want. But I also think it should be easy for them to make that choice. Currently there’s no easy way to identify all the AI images.

Maybe if we had some sort of intelligent algorithm that could filter things… (I kid. Crowdsourcing tags would probably be easier and more accurate.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

As part of training AI you also create a second AI that detects whether something is AI or not. The solution is to use AI to detect AI. However running this on every single image is computationally very expensive.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not gonna disagree with that

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with you so hard, I actually have to downvote your post because of community.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

You'd be surprised how many times I've gotten "well, it doesn't matter cause this is such and such community", which is why I posted it here.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I spent hours Photoshopping Elon Musk's face onto Scarlett O'Hara (took so long because I made myself do it with Gimp 3). If I could have done it with AI, the results would likely have been better and that time wasted making a meme is something I won't ever get back.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not wasted completely time... you gained Gimp skills

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Id take the terrible photoshop meme over the AI slop meme any day. 1 takes effort the other wastes electricity

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The result would've been worthless trash because that's all ai is.

Thank you for not contributing to the decay of artistic ability and creativity by actually taking the time to do it yourself. I'd rather a mountain of human made low effort shit over even one "good" generative "art". Plagiarism machines can all die now

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The result would’ve been worthless trash because that’s all ai is.

So an image created by an AI bad because it was created by an AI? Regardless of the the content?
How about an image created by an AI and then worked on by a human?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If your process is to have a plagiarism machines output crap, and then you work on top of that, that's your fucking choice. I wouldn't do it, but to each their own.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I took a digital photo of Musk off of Google and cut/pasted it onto a frame grab from Gone with the Wind.

I hand crafted the plagiarism using plagiarism.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is it. AI is a tool just like anything else. Before AI people would complain that a photo was ‘shopped and before that it was that the models in magazines were airbrushed.

All of these are tools that are at an artist’s fingertips and a good artist can do something great with if they put the time into it.

Yes, lazy people can create crap with it if they want but you really can’t be blaming the tool for what stupid humans do with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Output from generative AI is always garbage?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There is a paradox here, as there are 2 possibilities either

A) AI generated "slop" is obviously bad quality, theirfor a label is unnecessary as it is obvious.

Or

B) the AI generated content looks as good as human creations therfore is not slop and a label is unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If someone makes an ai clip of a politician saying something they didn't should we believe it cause the ai was convincing enough?

Really photoshopped images meant to seem as real as possible should be flagged. It sounds ridiculous just because it has become the norm to accept them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

A) Some people are really really bad at noticing AI slop. I’ve seen some really obvious AI generated images with people debating if it’s real or not. Unless those comments were AI and I’m the one who can’t tell…

B) Honestly even good AI generated content should come with a disclaimer IMO.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

*therefore

Even if it looks good, it's slop.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this controversial?

I suggest banning AI images from communities that arent specifically made for AI images

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I suggest banning photoshop images from communities that aren't made specifically for photoshop images

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ideally photoshopped images should all be flagged as impractical as that might be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So, anything taken on a current-gen mobile phone, is what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yup, I know it is impractical, not only that but because it is a digital recreation it will never be a completely truthful representation of anything. It was the same for film but the changes were understood and accepted. Doctored/manipulated images though were expected to be identified as such, for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Current-gen mobile phones arent adding fake objects to images

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Photoshop, not AI. Read the context of the discussion

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

You and the previous^2^ poster who complained about people complaining about AI slop should have a rap battle.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this AI?
I can't ever be sure unless an anal retentive wannabe mod declares so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Google image search

5 years ago

No, it's not AI.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, we're cool. You and I can tell but AI won't. So it will enshitificate it self into uselessness.

We should all strive to cause confusion in all sorts of databases so AI can't unfuck itself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

I thought this was the community for unpopular opinions?

[–] person420 9 points 3 weeks ago

Oh no I used auto-complete to help write this message. Here comes the Lemmy police to remove my post.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Dammit, I hated down voting this because I agree wholeheartedly.

But this is a common sentiment, it just isn't getting reported about as heavily as all the advertising disguised as reporting. Even outside of lemmy, people are bitching about exactly this. Not just online either, and not just tech minded people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I have no issue with your opinion and I doubt very many others do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I believe gravity exists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

so what AI detection tool should we use to detect it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Images of me with my wife - Stalin are not AI slop!!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I have been trying to block AI content communities when I see them, but it is an onerous task. Is there a way to remove items labeled as AI from my feed?

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