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Because this is what we need to be focusing on, not environmental responsibility from large polluters.
We are continually approving oil, gas, and coal projects, yet let's focus on the contradiction of environmentalists existing in a system where their very existence causes them to emit, regardless of how careful their choices.
Don't worry about this, it's fine
It's just sitting there menacingly next to the Athabasca river.
This is whataboutism.
It's more like a false dilemma, claiming we can only focus on or solve one or the other. Our largest focus should be the largest polluters as mentioned, but it's also ok to want to challenge the use of AI in messaging about social action.
It’s not an issue of focus, but cohesion and messaging. Focusing on internal moral purity alienates people and divides us against the larger enemy.
Lol 100%
This meme has strong, "Any environmentalist that doesn't unalive themselves, isn't trying hard enough." vibes.
When the environmentalism memer is being petty about the small issues instead of making the discussion about the big sectors of personal consumption like heating/power source, nutrition and mobility
And yes, AI in creative sectors bad
Also who's to say the person isn't running the AI model locally off of renewable energy?
You don't have to use a centralized service, shit like ComfyUI exist
Whataboutism? Are only certain topics allowed to be discussed? Are memes prohibited to strictly serious and important issues?
Memeing like this more harmful than helpful for solving the problem due to big sectors very hard to change and therefore people like to shift to other sectors to ignore actual solution
I mean, iOS produces them on-device 😂
And how much CO2 was produced training the AI that was put on your device? How many slaves spent how many hours generating data to train that AI? How many slaves cut down how many forests to extract the materials that how many slaves turned into the chips that ran the training process?
And how much CO2 was produced training the AI that was put on your device?
I mean, fuck Apple and fuck AI. But at some point "I noticed your picture was rendered with software that uses electricity that may have come from a fossil fuel power source, so I'm going to disregard environmentalism carte blanche" is just reactionary anti-environmentalist rhetoric couched in smug liberalist language.
If only he didn't generate that image! I can't believe he made Apple generate that whole model!
And how much CO2 was produced training the AI that was put on your device?
Depends on where the data centre was that did the processing
If in nordics or france then practically nothing, if in California then depending on the day/time of year, how much wind/solar/battery was going probably minimal
https://electrek.co/2024/12/31/california-grid-100-percent-renewables-no-blackouts-cost-rises/
if somewhere with only coal plants then a decent amount
Focusing climate change on individual contribution alienates people from the movement. Instead of wasting your energy making one person feel bad, maybe focus on the corporations that are actually responsible for producing that CO2 and cutting down those forests while hiding that reality from the consumer.
I’m unsure about that. But seeing how stupid it is, and knowing that Apple produces green energy through Apple Energy LLC, I suspect not enough CO2 was produced 😂 /s
Ok, here's my perspective. I hate Gen-AI (specifically and solely the generative kind), I think in nearly 100% of its use cases there are more effective and more ethical solutions. Its really sketchy to me for any artist to be using or supporting AI with/in their work. My understanding is that while training the AI does take significant server farm work (on a similar scale to like, storing the data for streaming video), the actual AI model produced is relatively small, and therefore doesn't take that much energy to run. So, good on them for doing environmental work, my hangups will entirely be on the ethical side of their AI usage.
My understanding is that while training the AI does take significant server farm work (on a similar scale to like, storing the data for streaming video), the actual AI model produced is relatively small, and therefore doesn't take that much energy to run
Yeah, you can run most models on a mildly powerful gaming computer and be able to generate images
My rig actually takes less power to Gen images than it does to run some games on Max settings
I'm with you on more ethical solutions being available, but efficient? In turns of total energy usage required to go from (often unethically acquired) training data to a manifestation of a prompt as an image, maybe.
But regarding the effort and efficiency when purely generating an image? I think not.
There is a person on Lemmy running GenAI models locally (on their own machines) using solar power, and honestly, that's totally fine by me. I'm also fine with a DM generating some art for their next hombrew game they run with a couple of friends.
Acquisition of training data and the environmental impact of data centers (not only for AI usage) are still problems to be solved, though.
Honestly, any blog claining to be informative qhile usung AI thumbnails makes me extremely wary. If they can't even find a stock photo, who's to say they did any research, or worse, just wrote the entire article with gen ai
For me the problem with AI generated thumbnails in any environmental or scientific blog is that it makes me doubt the whole text might be a AI Hallucination and I just immediately click out.
AI images just kill all credibility for me.
