They're trying to get a specific guy fired. Focusing on the bigger picture doesn't accomplish that.
Nothing accomplishes that. We can't even stop them from killing people on our own soil.
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They're trying to get a specific guy fired. Focusing on the bigger picture doesn't accomplish that.
Nothing accomplishes that. We can't even stop them from killing people on our own soil.
Police brutality in the US has only gone up since the Black Lives Matter protests began
“God is the Greatest. Death to America. Death to Israel. Curse be upon the Jews. Victory for Islam” -The Houthi Militia Slogan
I agree we need a new opposition party but it cannot be lead by the kinds of clowns who are so poorly educated that they think that the Houthi are the victims here. Those racist assclowns started the civil war that has been killing Yemenis for years now. Even Iran is telling them to stop attacking ships.
Yeah but you know "whatabout ..."
Apparently two things cannot be bad at the same time.
Do you want to win an election or do you want to be morally superior?
Everyone in America heard the Republicans go on and on and on about Hilary's emails. That's where they are vulnerable.
Shilling for a 3rd Party at this late date is silly at best.
Your comment perfectly represents the moral bankruptcy of the Democratic party. The obsession with elections and compromising, even when the midterms are almost two years away.
A proper opposition party would hammer the substance and put the institutional failures on full display. If you don't have principles, there's no point to winning power anyway.
By your logic, no one who opposed Hitler should have taken aid from the capitalist and racist Americans or the British empire.
Look at the real world. the GOP is using every dirty trick imaginable, but we should lose with dignity and honor intact.
Have you considered that maybe moral bankruptcy isn't the most effective way to win elections, at least not if you're presenting as the slightly-less-right-wing option? The Democratic party is broken, nobody is buying their shit any more, and that's why someone like Trump can get elected. There is no opposition party. It's not a problem that will get fixed by ignoring it.
Do you really think calling them hypocrites is gonna work when it hasn’t the 5000 other times? Dems don’t need to go after republican voters or smear republican. It’s been shown that obviously does not work. They need to be a party people want to vote for.
I've been saying it for a while now.
In WW2 the most progressive people on the planet lined up to get help from the racist Americans and the British empire because they saw Hitler was worse.
If you need to be coaxed into fighting Trump, you're not anti-fascist, you're desperate for attention.
BTW, I donated to Bernie in 2016, 2020, and 2024. It was the Progressives who failed me, not the Dems.
I’m mostly just confused by what you’re even trying to say about my post here? I said stop doing what doesn’t work and start doing something good? And your response is… uh… hitler was bad? I don’t?
Also, if you think the dems have nothing to do with progressives losing, then lol.
They need to be a party people want to vote for.
I'm responding to that idea.
If you need to be coaxed into voting against Trump you're not anti-fascist, you're desperate for attention.
And progressives like AOC and Omar managed to win inside the Dem Party.
Like I said, I'd love to be able to vote for an actual Progressive. Too bad they keep dropping the ball.
To think progressives are dropping the ball, but not the DNC, who has sued 3rd parties off ballots, pushed back as hard as they can against progressives(including spending DNC money against progressives in primaries & running attack ads on 3rd party), certainly is a DNC style take.
To say "not being trump" should be enough is fucking wild. That is the epitome of democracy huh? "You can't vote for a good candidate, or one that would represent your ideals. You must vote based on who you hate most! You have to support the system that forces this! it is good! and balanced!"
I'll pass dude.
Do you want to win an election? Because what the DNC is currently doing hasn't worked very well for that.
We've known that people don't vote rationally in a democracy for almost three thousand years. Why do you keep expecting this to change?
If you want to win elections you must both appear morally superior and promise material gains. Making morally bankrupt rationalizations just turns the masses away.
Every time someone made the argument "yes we're sponsoring genocide, but Trump will be worse" you lost votes. You just made people more nihilistic.
And Im not saying they cannot be. Im saying I don’t want any opposition to be run by folks who are so undereducated that they think there is something wrong with America attacking a group of people who have “Death to America” in their slogan and are attacking innocent sailors in commercial shipping lanes.
These people have been having American and British bombs dropped on then for 10 years by now, via the planes of America and Britain's ally, Saudi Arabia.
WTF do you expect from them other than hatred for America?!
Do you expect some kind of thankfulness for the whole "I might be randomly killed tomorrow when the bus I'm traveling in gets hit by an American bomb"? Because that would be like expecting Americans to be thankful to Al-Queda after 9/11 (only worse so because far more civilians have been killed in Yemen with American bombs by America's ally than in 9/11) rather than hate the hell out of the fuckers that killing innocent people.
America's actions in Yemen have basically been the equivalent of helping Nazi Germany bomb the shit out of France and the Résistance Française and then shifting to directly bombing the Résistance themselves with little care for collateral damage by using "they hate us" as an excuse.
It's like the whole Iran situation:
And ditto for Palestine which is very much a similar situation but even worse.
I mean, you gotta be quite the tribalist muppet or extremely insular (or, more commonly, both) to keep on believing the same decades old style of excuse from American Politicians for killing people in far away lands which itself justifies giving tons of taxpayer money to military suppliers for weapons and ammo (the real objective) instead of putting it in Healthcare or Education, because there is no way you can't put 2 and 2 together otherwise.
Why isn’t the US doing anything to stop the genocide in Gaza? “Death to America” is nothing compared to enabling a genocide which both the current and past administrations are guilty of. Enforcing a naval blockade on Israel is hardly criminal when Israel is intentionally starving and slaughtering Palestinians.
But even if the Houthis are as bad as you claim, even worse than the US or Israel, how does that justify targeting hospitals and civilians?
And yet Ansarallah holds the moral high ground because they oppose genocide and we sponsor it. Sucks doesn't it?
They resisted against the brutal Saudi puppet government, and have been resisting genocide ever since.
Yemen has been undergoing a US-Saudi backed genocide for years
Guterres put the crisis in stark perspective, emphasizing the near complete lack of security for the Yemeni people. More than 22 million people out of a total population of 28 million are in need of humanitarian aid and protection. Eighteen million people lack reliable access to food; 8.4 million people “do not know how they will obtain their next meal.”
As of February 2018, according to the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, the coalition had killed 6,000 people in airstrikes and wounded nearly 10,000 more.
Yet, according to the OHCHR report, these counts are conservative. Tens of thousands of Yemenis have also died from causes related to the war. According to Save the Children, an estimated 85,000 children under five may have died since 2015, with more than 50,000 child deaths in 2017 alone from hunger and related causes.
Besides Saudi Arabia, the coalition attacking Yemen includes the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, Kuwait and Bahrain. Qatar was part of the coalition but is no longer.
Based on the information available to it using open sources, YDP reports that two-thirds of the coalition’s bombing attacks have been against non-military and unknown targets. The coalition isn’t accidentally attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure – it’s doing it deliberately.
The air and naval blockade, in effect since March 2015, “is essentially using the threat of starvation as a bargaining tool and an instrument of war,” according to the UN panel of experts on Yemen.
The coalition’s genocide in Yemen would not be possible without the complicity of the U.S. This has been a bipartisan presidential effort, covering both the Obama and Trump administrations.
U.S. arms are being used to kill Yemenis and destroy their country. In 2016, well after the coalition began its genocidal assault on Yemen, four of the top five recipients of U.S. arms sales were members of the coalition.
The U.S. has also provided the coalition with logistical support, including mid-air refueling, targeting advice and support, intelligence, expedited munitions resupply and maintenance.
The 'Curse upon the Jews' part of the slogan is completely unacceptable, any conflation of Zionism and Judaism is. There are plenty of things the Houthis do that is also completely unacceptable, utilizing child soldiers is another major one. There are plenty of things they deserve to be criticized on, and human rights organizations do a great job documenting and communicating those atrocities.
This isn't about good guys or bad guys. This is about an entire population subjected to a genocide. There are plenty of reasons to not like the Houthis, but that doesn't change the reality that they only exist as a resistance to the ongoing genocide. The point isn't that the Houthis are good, it's that the genocide, facilitated by the US and our Ally Saudi Arabia, is significantly worse by multiple magnitudes.
The root cause of the problem is still the genocide, that's a much bigger concern, especially to the people of Yemen, than to stop or reform the Houthis themselves. They can only be addressed in a realistic way, by the people of Yemen, once the genocide ends.
I'm not a fan of the Houthis, but these people are really the equivalent of American guntoting Y'alliban. They like their guns and they like their free speech and they hate foreign countries propping up dictators who oppress them.
The slogan eventually became a sign of public protest against the dictatorship of Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh... The Houthi movement officially adopted the slogan in the wake of the widely condemned 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. This brought the movement on a collision course with the government, as the government maintained its official pro-American politics despite public opposition. The slogan was outlawed. The Houthis refused to discard it, arguing that the constitution of Yemen protected free speech. By 2004, crackdowns against both the slogan as well as the Houthi movement intensified. Many Houthis were imprisoned and even tortured for having used it.
They like their guns and they like their free speech and they hate foreign countries propping up dictators who oppress them.
That is a grossly inaccurate representation of who the Houthi are. The Houthi Militia are NOT freedom fighters as they are looking to oppress other Yemeni ethnic groups.
This isn’t a case of good ol boys standing up to imperialism, rather it is a group of racist bigots attacking boats that are typically not involved in any conflict.
There is no viable party that is against the military industrial complex.
If you take a step back and look at the Democrats and Republicans, they agree and overlap on far more many issues than they differ. Indeed, in the context of a lot of foreign governments, both of our parties would be considered dangerously right-wing. Yet, there's no serious opposition in the US, as you say.
The issue has been falsely bifurcated in the USA where looking elsewhere is "throwing your vote away". Yet, without an alternative party, there are many problems in the USA which are just non-starters, like pacifism. Totally unthinkable under either party's operational guidelines.
For other parties to spring up, we need to get ballot initiatives going in every state to move away from First Past the Post voting. This only requires getting enough signatures for a ballot initiative in about half of the states, for the other half, writing to your representatives and senators can make a difference. It’s not a fruitless effort either as Alaska and Maine both have managed to move away from First Past the Post voting, which is the main limiting factor preventing other political parties from springing up.
Ranked robin voting, STAR voting, score voting, and even Ranked Choice voting are better than First Past the Post for allowing better representation.
we need to get ballot initiatives going in every state to move away from First Past the Post voting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_Cat
Americans will look at the gerrymandering, the voter caging, the militant policing of minority voting districts, the Brooks Brothers Riots, Operation Eagle Eye, the SAVE Act, the dismantling of ACORN, the people getting snatched up off the street and disappeared to an El Salvadorian slave camp...
And they'll think to themselves "If we just changed our ballot to use a ranked scoring model, we could have avoided all of this."
why would they, %90 of democrats also think that Israel is just conducting military operations against terrorists and not mass slaughtering civilians or destroying civil areas as a part of their genocide and ethnic cleansing plan
According to Israeli polls, Dems support of israel is about 33%. Gallup polls say Democrat 21% compared to Republican 75%.
Total support of Israel in the USA is 46% and support of a two state solution is 55% with only 31% opposed and 14% no opinion. Independents and Republicans both have more favorable views of Israel than Democrats. As for support of an independent Palestinian state, despite being contradictory with the previous poll question, Democrats are in favor at 76% compared with 53% of independents and 41% of Republicans support a Palestinian state but 49% opposed.
Despite this, the Republican administration is supporting a Single State Solution in which Israel takes all, just as they did in the previous Trump administration.
They've observed that being anti-war didn't work, so they switched tactics. You want them to keep beating the same dead horse?
They've observed that being anti-war didn't work, so they switched tactics.
When, in 1980? Because that's the last time the Dem leadership was antiwar and a SHITLOAD has changed in the 45 years since.
You want them to keep beating the same dead horse?
The dead horse they've been beating is unconditional support of a fascist apartheid regime, which was one of the big reasons why they lost to the most unpopular presidential candidate in history the second time.
Another case of equine carcass abuse that cost them is their insistence on "considered voting for the GOP but might not" is the most important demographic and their stubbornly ignoring their own base and stated principles as a result.
When the hell did the Democrats ever try being anti-war? Are you talking about George McGovern in 1972? Because they've been rabid hawks for as long as I've been alive.
I want them to stop being anti-poor.
I don't care if their policies look like they support the poor when they can't ever get anything passed that forces the rich to make concessions
Anti-war coalition is what gave Democrats a solid majority to Obama. He kept at the wars and eroded the coalition until the RNC could field Trump and win.
Trust me, no other cultures saw those messages and thought about the incompetent opsec. They saw how Americans slay with accompanying emojis and not a single mention of the indiscriminate collateral human lives. Not as if they are concerned even about the optics. Just no mention. Not internal. Not external. Nothing. The human rights considerations are not evaded or even acknowledged. The conventions of war, even what the other nations might say, nothing. Operating anywhere in the world with emoticon decorated executions. It is notable for the rest of the world. This is the extent of the mercy of the few. Those that decide who lives. That the native opposition's persecution and domestic news coverage is exclusively over how it was leaked.. It is not something you can ignore when it can be you at any moment. And soon, Americans themselves will piece by piece learn that it could be them too. That fear means control. To be subject to this arrogance towards life will hopefully get a few of the sofa. God bless her and him that dare, the world is watching you hang in the balance. The well-being of your children and loved ones comes to question and at that point some of us will be forever immortalised, either for feeding or defying the wolves of this eerily completely broadcasted fascist cycle.
123 Murdered so far...
We need to burn the slaver's constitution and replace it with a modern document if anything.