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[–] [email protected] 138 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Yes, Hasbro wants to make another Baldur’s Gate game that continues to “raise the bar” without Larian

Pfffffff.... Hasbro has a great reputation for being greedy as fuck, and completely deaf blind and dumb to what fans love and enjoy about established IPs. So I'm sure whatever travesty they release will be just great 👍

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

When they say "raise the bar" they just want to make a hornier dating sim.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, whether say "raise the bar" they mean "increase the price."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Buy these new subclasses for just 3,99 each, or 10 bucks for the bundle with all of them! This is a limited time offer, visit the Baldurian shop to grab yours fast!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ahh, Dungeons and Dragons: Online, my beloved

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Jokes aside, what they literally mean is "make it on a budget expect a giant revenue since people want more". And after it flops, they'll moan and whine about how customers are ruining the industry by not knowing what they want and demanding something they wont buy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I’d probably buy it. I have no shame.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

they just want to make a hornier dating sim.

but we have two and a half studios for that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

@[email protected] is right....I'd buy that!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The memes should be fun tho

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah Hasbro will just dumb it down and ruin it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"raise the bar" is big Amazon language. Maybe a bunch of ex Amazon folks in Hasbro now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Optimus Prime skin on the Mother Brain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've tried to play baldur's gate 3 a few times already and every time I felt like it was a fantastical game but I always ended up not playing it for long. After the last time I started wondering why that happened and reached the conclusion that it was the D&D universe that put me off. Not necessarily because it was bad but because I knew nothing about it and the game didn't try to introduce me to it either.

So I read your comment on Hasbro as "want to make another great game but using only the bad parts of the last one"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Even though Larian did a great job modernizing pieces, D&D 5E is just really crunchy and outdated, imo. Larian's own Divinity Original Sin 2 had a largely better combat, magic, and armor system, even if it is a slightly older title now.

Physical and magic armor, spell cooldowns (prevents spell spam and constant short and long rests), advanced elemental and cursed surfaces, and diversified healing and combat magic make characters more flexible.

5e's rest system is good for taking care of (what was) useless food in inventory, moves the story along, and provides good places for more natural relationships. D&Ds lack of flexible healing and spell slots means a lot of annoying enemy encounters, however.

I'm on my second playthrough of both titles right now. BG3's story is awesome. :)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago

Emphasis on the ass

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

hasbro: so more aaa schlock and treating our players as if they're stupid it is then

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Witcher 3, Baldurs Gate 3.

We don't care about the game, we want boobies and sex and romance.

Edit: y'all feeling called out for being thirsty

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

we want boobies and sex and romance.

Literally the parts I couldn't care less about.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dude, same. I finally got around to the Witcher 3 and as am adult now, the sex stuff is just so awkward.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I truly can't tell if you can mean this. You play games to see the 3D polygonal breast

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don’t think it’s just the visual for people. They go on these epic quests and gain emotional attachments to their party members. It’s basically interactive erotica with dragons and shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My four player game every one runs around naked it’s hilarious. The dicks twitch all over in the cutscenes. More of that yes. So funny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The new Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and Cyberpunk all had an average mixed to negative reviews.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You might want to check Cyberpunk again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Cyberpunk is still utter shait when compared to GTAV and still delivers on less than half of what they promised. If they hadn't become the de facto hardware showcase for NVIDIA the game would have long been abandoned. NVIDIA's marketing development funds sponsoring half of "gaming" youtubers did more for CDPR's reputation than anything they added to the game. It was never going to be better than mid, and it's still mid. Ai is still worse than GTA3.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dang, sorry bud, sounds like a you problem. I thought it was great.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I only played it after the fixes years later and concur

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Just wanted to chime in and agree with you - waited to buy it for years (patient gaming ftw) then after loading it up the first npc phased right through me, just walked straight through me and I was like, wtf?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

You can, just pointing out games with sex appeal do well. The core gameplay has to be good too, but I don't think that's what propels a good game to the apex.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, so my first reaction is "what actual indie developer who knows what they're talking about excludes BG3 from AAA"?

Turns out not this one, apparently, since the creative use of quotes seems intended to obscure that "AAA schlock" is not from the dev, it's from the journalist rehashing a quote from an article about a quote from a podcast. Speaking of schlock.

Anyway, I'm on the fence about the core point. I agree on principle that "dumbed down" doesn't make things mainstream. I agree that this is a lesson the industry insists on refusing to learn, even after The Sims doulbing as architecture software, WoW casual moms playing with a dozen UI mods, Fortnite core players building gothic cathedrals in five seconds and Roblox containing entire gamedev teams made of unpaid children.

Whatever the mainstream wants, "simple" has nothing to do with it.

Do I think BG3 means somebody should fund Pillars 3? Yeeeeah, not so sure. BG3 works because it was the literal best time to be making D&D stuff, because it had two extremely beloved brands propping it up, because it's a sequel to two extremely well received, accessible CRPGs that both did a lot better than Pillars to begin with, because they were both focused on multiplayer and free-form systems instead of straight-up literature. Nuance matters here.

And then somebody (a lot of somebodies) gave Larian two hundred million to make it, so it also looks at least as good as anything Bioware ever did during their heyday. That's probably why BG3 has 140K players on Steam right now and Avowed has 1K and never peaked past 10K.

There are lessons from BG I'd love to see the industry learn. I want them to learn the right ones, though, because if they go ahead and invest another nine digits in the wrong thing then we WILL actually have to wait another 30 years for another game like that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If an indie studio can produce this, why not create a AA CRPG? Do you really need the third A?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Im sorry BG3 is triple A in quality they are indie since they published their own games not cause they are small or low quality. Indie just gets thrown around as most are solo devs. With digital distribution less indies have to sell out to work with big publishers to get on consoles. Honestly it's why I think AAA publishers are dying they can no longer just buy the smaller fish.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Baldurs Gate 3 is a AA CRPG tho?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

BG3 had a budget of over 100 million and several hundred people working on it, it's well into AAA territory

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

pretty sure we’re at AAAA now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

The As represents how much the employees scream while making the game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Isnt bg3 simplifing DND to bring it to a more mainstream audience? Players definitely do not want deepass crpgs. Crpgs go very deep.