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[–] [email protected] 313 points 1 month ago (8 children)

As a parent, if my kid did that, I'd likely side with the neighbour. I would put it (very loosely) in the category of "natural consequence" punishments.

It fits the crime, it discourages the crime, it forces empathy with the cat, and it does no real harm.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is my favorite answer. I'd argue that he got less than the natural consequences of his actions. In nature, when one assaults another, even with something as harmless as water, it's usually reasonable to interpret it as a threat, the response to which is usually violence. That kid is lucky he didn't get a face full of claws. I've gotten a lot worse from gently touching cats that, as it turned out, didn't want to be touched. Boundaries are important.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Natural consequences doesn't mean "law of the jungle" here. It just means linking cause and effect in a proportionate manner.

I tend to use a lot of "natural consequence parenting". Basically, the response should flow from the cause. If you throw water over your friend, you can't then complain if they throw water over you. You learn that, while it's fun when expected, it can be deeply unpleasant when unexpected.

It's a lot more effective than random generic punishments. The trick is shielding them from excessive results, while allowing proportional ones to play out. E.g. swinging on a chair will get a warning, but often not stopped. When they fall, there's an "I told you so" before/with the cuddle. If there is a risk of a more serious injury however, e.g. the corner of a table where their head may hit, then I step in and stop things.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't have kids but this is pretty much how my dad raised me. It made me really respect when he gave me a hard no for something, it meant "no really the risk majorly outweighs the reward" and even if I didn't understand it at the time I trusted it. I got a lot of I told you so after varying seriousness of injuries lol. Eventually I learned that the soft warning meant I was going to have a lot of fun but I needed to be ready for if it went sideways. Now I've got a pretty healthy sense of my own limits and when to start gauging risk/reward

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

That's basically the goal I'm aiming for. It's also worth remembering to always give an (age appropriate) explanation with the "no". If you're using a hard no, then there is something they don't yet understand. Explaining it lets them integrate that knowledge into their future risk management.

The only downside is their confidence is high enough to terrify me! The job of containing and shaping that confidence, without damaging it gives me plenty of grey hairs.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 month ago (19 children)

My head hurts from reading that. Comma and periods, people. Comma and periods.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is what big comma and periods want you to believe. Don't be a fool!

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 month ago

My neighbors daughter had one of those water guns. I told her if she shoots at me, I'll get the hose and retaliate. She grinned, shot at me, and ran away laughing.

I talked to her dad, he nodded, and when she came back for more mischief, she got wet.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (28 children)

Like, I agree with the tit for tat. But don't let your cat outside.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it was funny to do it to the Cat.... It was hilarious doing it to the kid.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Can confirm.

I have a robot that clears snow on my driveway (it’s a diy build,). One winter, we were having problems with a couple teenage boys chucking snowballs at cars.

Their dads conspired to teach them a lesson.

They recruited me and S5-SY (the robot, pronounced “Sassy”,).

So they played some mind games to get the kids to think it was their idea to record themselves-live- chucking snowballs at the “defenseless” robot.

In the video, the robot turned to face them, drove itself into the snow bank and turned on its sweeper to give them the worst white wash of their lives.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That the risk you take with an outdoor cat. It's not even like water is harmful to it.

I used to have an outdoor cat and if that happened I would have shrugged it off and expected him not to go there again.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 month ago (6 children)

That's the risk you take with an outdoor brat. It's not even like water is harmful to it.

I used to have an outdoor brat and if that happened I would have shrugged it off and expected him not to go there again.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

Both takes are 100% correct

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

"Nobody got hurt, just LET ASSHOLE BE ASSHOLES! MUH FREEDUMS!"

Nah, I'm a firm believer in 'Fuck around and Find out'

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That the risk you take

Well someone might just hit your car, that's the risk you take by driving, nobody got hurt, they shouldn't be held accountable. I would have shrugged it off and started taking the bus.

This is fun, we can remove all accountability from everything that's not harming someone directly!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If my kid did that, I'd let you splash them again.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Everyone here balancing the ethics of getting wet like it's assault.

Water melts snowflakes and wicked witches, everyone else need not worry.

All living things should be used to being wet either all the time or somewhat regularly. To think beyond that, wow, society has its teeth in you and you are lost.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is assault, though.

Kid acted maliciously towards the cat. It's not like the kid accidentally knocked a bottle of water and some of it splashed the cat. No. There was a conscious decision to torment the cat by deliberately throwing water over it.

Punishment fits the crime here.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (7 children)

If my neighbor did ANYTHING to my pets, they'd be lucky to only get sprayed with water.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (19 children)

i think i still remember where i was the first time i saw this posted

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lucky for me I'm one of today's 10,000 and have not seen this before.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I’ll take things that never happened for 200$

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Yes, no 10 year-old ever threw water at a cat.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Idk,

Shouting “Hey, don’t do that” loud and clear may be more effective.

  • kid may have thought they where alone and will get jumped from getting caught.

  • May alert the parents their kid is up to mischief.

  • Doesn’t potentially start an escalation war with neighbors

  • Doesn’t carry the small risk of the child falling or otherwise getting hurt with you as an easy blame.

Think of it like this: Does the kid now understand the “evil” of their actions to try be better next time. Or will they feel vindicated by their parents support against your “evil”

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

You're right, but this is fuck around and find out territory. I would want the escalation to make it clear where I stand with my cat.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

plot twist: kids a radical ecologist, keep ya cat indoors.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

For me it is fine, that bastard will think twice next time.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If his Dad's reaction is any indication, he likely won't.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

How DARE you interact with my poor, helpless cat, who I lovingly toss outside to slaughter songbirds, pick up parasites, and maybe get flattened by a car. I don't generally give a single solitary shit what happens to it out there, but this splash of water is TOO FAR.

Edit:

Please stop letting your cat out. It's not good for your cat or the local wildlife.

https://daily.jstor.org/environmental-danger-outdoor-cats/

https://www.bbc.com/news/scienceenvironment-21236690p

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380

https://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/cats-responsible-for-driving-many-species-to-extinction/all/amp.html

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (7 children)

ESH. Kid shouldn't have done it, but also the lady shouldn't let the cat outside

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (11 children)

We've a lot of cats coming through the garden. I wouldn't mind if not for my dog, who does and goes insane when she spots a cat. So I've been thinking about getting a super soaker to chase them away. I think that's pretty harmless, and perhaps they learn to skip our garden after a while... What do you lot think?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think they taunt you by shitting in your flowerbeds while you're not looking.

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