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Republicans on the US House of Representatives’ Judiciary Committee universally voted against an amendment on Wednesday that would have prevented Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) from using federal funds to detain or deport US citizens.

Democratic Representative Pramila Jayapal from Washington proposed the amendment to a budget bill, which was approved in the House of Representatives on April 10. She stated that since President Donald Trump began his second term, “a troubling pattern has emerged with US citizens being detained by immigration authorities,” citing numerous examples over the past few months. Jayapal described this trend as “unconstitutional, dangerous, and fundamentally wrong.”

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (3 children)

And the decline of America into a fascist hell continues unabated.

Y'know, I've been wondering if America will balkanize in the next few decades. I don't know if it would be better or worse if it does.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Depends.

Clearly it would be better for the blue states to break away. Blue states have most of the money, people, and innovation.

But that would clearly drive the red states to start a war to keep the blue states under their control. Blue states would probably win because that's where all the brains, money, and people are, but still, war. So that's not great.

Personally, I'm getting to the point where I don't care about the bloodshed. It's a question of whether we're going to let the dumber parts of America sink the whole ship or peel away and save ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Honestly yes. I would enlist if it meant my blue state could secede from this shithole of a country.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I already enlisted once, and I'm stuck in a red state. I would happily move to a solid blue state and turn my firearms toward the redcoats if it came to a civil war.

The real question is would they let me move.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Balkanization is the good ending. But like most good endings getting there requires more effort than getting to the bad ending. So you're getting the bad ending.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Balkanization implies a solid geographical split between states, and in terms of the current political and cultural issues, there just isn't one. Yes there are red states and blue states, but the big cities in red states are extremely blue, and the rural areas in blue states are extremely red; the real divide is between cities and countryside.

If a second civil war does break out, it won't be a convenient split like the last one. It's going to be a lot of fighting within states and cities and suburbs and rural areas, with no clear geographical boundaries.

(As much as I'd like for the Midwest to be its own country I doubt it'll happen anytime soon. :) )

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Thank your local magats for subjecting us all to this by beating them down in the streets

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

I prefer my fascists in a very particular way.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

How do you deport a citizen? Isn't that an oxymoron?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

It’s a synonym for “kidnapping” or “false imprisonment”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

It's not deportation for the non-citizens either, it's rendition, and it's all very illegal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Not if you strip them of their citizenship first!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

C/Republicans mod twisting thoughts to make this make sense as we speak.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

Hypocrisy doesn't bother reactionaries. On the contrary— they love showing that the rules don't apply to them.

Their entire goal is to set themselves above the undesirables in society and get extra privileges and rights.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's one of those things where when shit goes sideways and an opposing group calls to deport every member who voted to block citizens being deported they'll scream "hypocrisy" never acknowledging their own fault in the matter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

The amendment text hasn't been published yet, but here is a different one:

SA 2221: Senator Tom Cotton [R-AR] -- an amendment forbidding any bill providing funding for the International Criminal Court if the UN passes a resolution to investigate if Israel (or any employee) participated in the October 7 attacks.

(ed. note - lol wut?)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Fascism.

Buy a gun and start training with your friends and family.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Diaper donny: nice try, imma do it anyway, see precedent.