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Fuck PTACs, and the developers who install them.
All over NYC, Brooklyn, Queens, Jersey City, you see fucking 1.2 million dollar condos or $5000/mo "luxury apartments" with these fuckers in every room.
It's a giant hole in the wall, you literally can see outside if you take the plastic cover off to change/clean the filter.
They're window units that have a dedicated window.
They're also monstrously inefficient compared to mini splits even before you account for leaving a giant uninsulated hole in your wall with free movement of air between the inside and the outside.
I laugh every time I see one of these shoved in right below a brand new quadruple pane low-e argon filled latest ultra efficiency mega R value vinyl window. Yeah, the window is not where your air leak is, bro.
They also look huge, in Europe the standard is to have an outside unit and an inside unit.
That's the standard in North America as well for single family homes or even condo buildings where they might put the condenser on the balcony or use a heat pump with a central loop.
I would guess these are popular in New York because they have many many old buildings with central heat and it's easier to punch a hole in the wall then hang somethings off the building 8 floors up. Also easier to work on the unit.
If only they weren’t so goddamn noisy.
Nah the noise is perfect to drown out every single noise in the hallway because the doors aren't soundproof at all.
So true. Hotels, you have one job: provide somewhere for me to sleep. That means make an attempt at soundproofing. Ah well.
They're noisy because they are inefficient. But still more efficient than any ceiling fan
They're noisy because they are inefficient.
It's probably both noisy and inefficient if it's made really cheap, but is that causation true?
But still more efficient than any ceiling fan
Not really comparable since ACs change the air temperature, while fans just move air.
On Hoth, you philistine.
Eh.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Echo_Base
The Echo Base was the facility established by the Rebel Alliance on the frigid planet of Hoth
The interior of Echo Base extended seven levels below the surface, with the lower levels for barracks, rec rooms, maintenance hangars and fuel stores.
Fuck those A/C units that require leaving a card in them to work
I haven't seen that but I believe you. Can you not just get an extra card from the front desk, or do they have it further enshittified in some way?
I've been in hotels where it's just detecting that the slot is filled the card doesn't matter. So you just use the cardboard sleeve the card came in.
Also been in newer ones that have RFID cards though that are harder but not impossible to spoof
Eh, if you're leaving your ac on all day when you're out, that's quite a waste. Card operation helps avoid accidentally leaving ac and lights on.
Is it more efficient to cycle the room temperature though? I've heard it's better to get a room to temp and the machine can work less to maintain it. But maybe that's old advice..
That is old advice. AC works pretty fast, especially in a small hotel room. If you have floor heating/cooling and a heat pump then it would make sense to leave it on all day.
Newer versions of these can have par levels set for the temps and I don’t know who thinks 74f is a comfortable room temp, but no… it is not.
Fortunately, internet legends went on to explain how to put these into service mode, thereby defeating their laughable levels. Just gotta remember to put it back to their mode when you’re checking out.
But, yeah, these things fkn crank coldness. And the electric bill. And the environment.
I think if a hotel billed me for resetting their AC I would throw the bill away and see if they really want to waste their time with collections and court.
My take was to not let them in on the secret.
I once considered moving from Seattoe to Bremerton, WA to take advantage of the much cheaper real estate. In attempt to get a feel for the daily commute, I decided to stay at a Super 8 in Bremerton for a week. 5 minutes into that experiment, I flicked on the AC unit that looks just like this one and it reeked of cat pee.
I did not move to Bremerton.
In that Super 8s probably rarely see cats who enjoy urinating on electrical equipment (although I'm sure that's happened nonzero number of times), it's probably a ton of condensed meth. When it's in secondhand form, exhaled or wasted, it's hydroscopic and instantly mixes with the room humidity, which is then processed by the A/C coils, where it accumulates.
Possibly the room was actually used to manufacture meth. I mean, I used to manage REO properties on Bremerton, and I definitely cleaned up the remains of a few meth labs.
But maybe Mr Fluffy did go to urinetown on it, who knows. Bremerton.
It was Bremerton, it was most likely meth.
You judge a city by their Super 8?
You know from staying in multiple super 8s, this would be a pretty accurate way to gauge a town
I haven't gone on a vaction where I needed a hotel in a LONG time, but yes. the Ac units in every hotel room I've ever been in are pretty baws
I hope you'll think about not using vacation rentals like airbnb. I obviously have no clue what you actually do on vacation.
They're so destructive to local communities. Homes are for living, not some ~~entrepreneurs~~ dickbags financial instrument.
This is true but I think it's worth noting that the most impactful and worst aspects of AirBnB and its ilk are from investors buying old apartment buildings and renting them out like hotels, while dodging all the living standards and financial regulations of actual hotels. If they get away with this it absolutely wrecks the local low-income housing market.
Private homeowners renting out rooms in their houses, or even renting out their whole house, for vacationers are not really the problem.
I live in Hawai’i and I approve this message
I will never understand people who WANT to be cold. I'd rather be a sweatball than a little chilly. When I see one of these it usually get immediately turned off, because yeah, they do some fucking work.
edit: Apparently people who like to be cold are really sensitive about not being understood. 😂
Because I can’t take off my skin but I can put on more clothes/blankets. As a human nuclear furnace, I sweat and get uncomfortable as rooms start going over 70f. It’s miserable.
Trade ya. My feet and hands will start turning to ice in a room below 70F.
And I experience both! Thanks, Raynaud's.
I don't want to be cold. I want to be comfortable. I want to not sweat. And for that to happen, I need the room to be cold.
Warm hotel rooms always feel stuffy, no thank you
...and smell. They're stuffy and they smell.
iirc people believe that cold environment warm insulated blanket promotes better sleeping.
Humid climates really necessitate it unless you want to swim in bed.
Second time I've seen this meme... Never experienced it. They always sucked compared to even cheap window units. Half the time barely able to push below 22*. Granted I spent a lot of time as a kid on summer break locked up in a room with an 80s high end window unit that could get the room to 10* on a 25+* day.
Perhaps it's more of an American thing, these are super common in budget hotels and have the ability to freeze you to death
I think it’s down to lack of maintenance. Either there’s a refrigerant leak, or the condenser side is clogged. Most budget hotels don’t have the best maintenance.
I've worked at hotels. People still figure out how to complain about these things.
