Burnt by water, ouch!
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unless theres more than one molecule of water, its touching itself
A single molecule of water is not wet but as soon as more then one molecule is present the water is then wet. That is my hill to die on in this argument.
I disagree. Mixing water and another liquid does not make the second liquid "wet" - it makes a mixture. Then if you apply that mixture to a solid the solid becomes wet until the liquid leaves through various processes and becomes dry. If that process is evaporation, the air does not become wet it becomes humid.
If there is two molecules of water which one is the dry molecule and which one is the wet molecule?
If there are three molecules does one get divided in half to make the other two wet or does only one get wet and one stays dry until a fourth arrives?
If there are*
And they both get wet, since they're both touching other water molecules. As goes for any other number above one. All of this is very obvious.
I had no idea that a lake could be so saucy with the comebacks. Glad to hear that it lives up to its name.
well it is superior
Getting into a political argument with a lake account. The lake account using 1st person language as Lake Superior.
Our ancestors would marvel at our reality!
I don't know, getting into arguments with sentient geo/hydrological features seems like the kind of thing our ancestors would have done
Water deities in ancient mythologies: Am I a joke to you?
The lake account using 1st person language as Lake Superior.
Are you suggesting that account isn't Lake Superior's account? Clearly lakes microblog.
Wwweeeeeeeellllllll see, water is also touching itself constantly. Something being wet is a material surrounded by water, like the fibers of a sponge surrounded by water, in example.
In water, every water molecule is surrounded by water molecules. This means every given water molecule can be considered wet. And thus water is wet.
If I have a single water molecule then it is still water but it isn’t touching any other water molecule, thus it isn’t wet
Exactly. So the only instance water is dry, and thus not wet, is if it's a single lonely molecule.
But water tends to come in herds, so that basically never happens.
I don't know who that Tom Fitton guy is, but water absolutely wet. And he's a knob.
Wetness is a quality/concept gained from a surface having liquid adhere to it. The liquid itself can't be wet. It's like saying fire is burnt.
Wetness is being saturated with water. Water is saturated by water by a base definition; you cannot be more saturated with something than literally being it, a 100% saturation value. Water is wet. And now so is the object in contact with it.
It's less consistent to the example to say that fire is burnt and transferring that burnt, and more that fire is hot and a material affected by fire is also hot. Fire is hot. And now so is the object in contact with it. Being burnt is a secondary reaction as a result of the primary transference of the heat properties in an overabundance. Much like your skin shriveling is a result of being wet for prolonged periods. It's a secondary reaction to the primary transferance of properties.
Water transfers its wetness, fire transfers its heat. Water is wet.
Unfortunately this is a flawed analogy.
What you're equating water wets water is that heat heats heat, which could make semantic sense, but is a useless statement. The same argument, made for other properties, also becomes ridiculous: "light brightens light", "scratching scratches the scratching", "aging ages time", etc.
Definitions are always imperfect, but some are imperfecter than others.
Also, see definition of henges; Stonehenge is not a henge, despite being the source of the word.
There's an argument that a single molecule of water on its own would not be wet, but essentially all water is touched by other water, so even by the needlessly contrarian definition, water is wet.
There’s an argument that wetness is a sensation that occurs when water comes into contact with a solid surface. Therefore, while water can make other things wet, it is not considered wet on its own.
Oh please someone argue this with me!
I love semantic bs!
Water is touching water, so therefore water is wet!
Not that Thomas isn't a piece of shit regardless.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetting
Wetting is the ability of a liquid to displace gas to maintain contact with a solid surface, resulting from intermolecular interactions when the two are brought together.[1] These interactions occur in the presence of either a gaseous phase or another liquid phase not miscible with the wetting liquid.
Fair enough. I was not expecting something I could not understand
Basically, the process of making something wet requires a liquid (usually water) to actually stick to it, through intermolecular forces. That's slightly more narrow a requirement than the "needs to touch water" that's commonly thrown around. A lotus flower or water repellent jacket doesn't get wet, even if you spray water on it, the droplets don't actually stick to the surface.
Now, water molecules stick to each other as well, that's called surface tension. But wetness, at least in physics, is defined at an interface between two mediums, a liquid and a solid, or two liquids that don't mix
Saying water is wet because it touches water sounds like "Fire is on fire because it touches fire". It just sounds fundamentally illogical as you're talking about a state of matter, not the matter itself.
I'm not a scientist, just throwing in my view on this
You fucking idiots. Real ones know wetness is how much vermouth it has in it.
Churchill apocryphally liked his martinis so dry that he would observe the bottle of vermouth while pouring the gin, and that was enough
If everything water touches is wet, and water touches itself, then water is wet.
wetting is the process of a liquid adhering to a surface. water by definition can't be wet
Liquids don't have surfaces?
The property of cohesion means that water is touching and adhering to the surface of other water molecules.
It doesn't change Tom Fitton being a shit, but facts do matter.
Except for the fact that water by definition is wet
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wet
Fun fact: there is no such thing as a universally accepted definition. Words mean what we mean when we say them. And the vast majority of people use "wet" to describe something that is made up of, touching, or covered in a liquid, especially water. The arbitrary assertion that the definition somehow only applies to solids is just facile contrarianism with no actual basis in linguistics.
But that's not the definition of wet. Wet is something having liquid adhere to it, usually water. It's a gained quality. Water doesn't adhere to itself, it can't gain the quality of being wet because it is the thing that gives that quality. It's like saying that fire is burnt. It does the burning.
Water literally adheres to itself. That's one of its most important qualities.
Water is cohesive which means yes, it does attach to itself. It's one of the main reasons capillary action works and your blood flows the way it does.
water isnt wet bro it just makes everything it touches wet but i SWEAR its not wet bro pls just believe me i have to be right its not wet
yes, what water touches is wet. you'll never guess what water is always touching
By that logic is fire not hot because what fire touches becomes hot?
No because these are not comparable things. fire is the chemical reaction changing energy into heat, it IS heat to the extreme.
Looking at the comments lately, it's very obvious that Lemmy inherited the last exodus of 4chan and the scum pool that is left of Reddit. Why do so many people not grow up? Why are so many people internally immature? Why the fuck do we have to deal with their inadequacies? Arguing a joke is utter nonsense. Do you not get that? It's a joke. It's already nonsense. You look like fucking idiots and you bring a bad vibe to good things. And you know that I'm talking to you... you child.
Seems like fairly civilized conversation in here tbh, I dont really see anyone getting personal. This is the kind of conversation everyone wanted Lemmy to have someday, right? Except for your comment, that one is pretty mean spirited with no intention of joining in the existing conversation and mine, which is taking the bait.