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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago

She's one of only half a handful of Dems that sound ready to lead people into battle. The difference between how she uses knowledge and intelligence to speak to people is in stark comparison to Trump sounding exactly like he has dementia. She listens and responds. Trump just keeps interrupting any question he doesn't like. Fuck you Maga. Fuck you entirely. You god damn idiots.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I would prefer a new party, but I'm glad that she and Bernie are still out there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sanders isn't a Democrat, and I agree with his recent message that young left-minded people going into politics should follow his lead and stay independent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can also choose "no party" as a voter. Idk how that affects voting in primaries, depending on the state you live in... but it's an option as well

Edit: missed the part about "going into politics", which kinda changes the dynamic of my statement... but still, it's an option for voters that aren't going into politics

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Funny what happens when you actually do something.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Disagree. The Democrats dont know who they are anymore. Pelosi and the old Democrats have got to go.

AOC should just make a new party.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, we don't have time for that. We just have to do a tea party on the Democratic party... Which is what she's been doing

They do have to go, but we're keeping the house and the dog

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

That's why I never believed in the rhetoric of "it's too late to consider 3rd party!" before the elections. Here it is just 6 months later and "we don't have time for that". Is it disingenuous then to just say there will never be time for that, like it is being implied here?

edit: just saw your other comments, I hope your DNC-tea party plan works with some effect. It's harder for those who have voted for decades for a party that just isn't responsive to the citizens so we'll see I suppose.

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[–] [email protected] 311 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Weird. The party that claims to be "for the people" keeps putting centrists in charge. We're ready for someone who is actually for the people!

[–] [email protected] 206 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Quickest way to mobilize the Democratic party is to threaten to put a progressive in charge

[–] [email protected] 155 points 4 days ago (12 children)

They learned their lesson with Obama. The funny thing is he’s not even a fucking leftist, the party is just so full of dinosaurs they think a modern centrist is a leftist.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago (14 children)

They’re definitely for the billionaire people.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She's one of like 3 US politicians that I don't just kind of low-key actively hate.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

tbf, the bar is so painfully low it is not even a tripping hazard.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I promise you the Democratic Party will do whatever it takes to keep her away from leadership roles because she actually wants to change things.

That’s the one thing the Democratic Party is consistent on: rejecting progressives, even if it means letting the conservatives win.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 4 days ago (17 children)

Next to Bernie she's the best the Dems have to offer. And for any possible run for President, she beats Bernie on age.

If they run Harris again, or Newsom or some other conservative Democrat in 2028, the party is fucked.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Newsom is trying his level best to have a right-of-center glow up right now. I'm almost certain that the DNC plans to tilt the scales for him. They likely will resist running a woman again for a long time because they've stupidly come to the conclusion that it was the genitalia of the candidates and not the quality of the candidate, campaign, and platform that caused them to lose what should have been two of the most winnable elections ever.

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[–] [email protected] 154 points 4 days ago

she's got my vote

[–] [email protected] 145 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

She's not the face of the Democratic Party

She's the face of a completely new and different party that has nothing to do with old Democrats.

To me, I've been viewing the US as being governed under a one party state for a while ... the Republicans and the Democrats form two halves of the same organization.

The US doesn't need a third party

They need to form a new second opposition party because the old one morphed into the monstrous thing we have today.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

The US needs a third, a fourth, a fifth and several more parties as viable alternatives.

They to drop any weird FPTP systems, this will allow new parties to come into play.

This would also end the ridiculous gerrymandering shit

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Are they... Still considering Harris for 2028??? What? Please god. Make it stop. Please.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

I hope she will be successful in actually overtaking the party to some degree, as most high-ranking party members would certainly see that differently

[–] [email protected] 79 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We should be so lucky to have a party she represents in this country. The only reason she has that seat is by defying the DNC as a spoiler. They only elevate politicians to the Federal level on the basis of how good they've proven they are at collecting that sweet, sweet corpo bribe money.

The DNC and democratic leadership would rather dissappear her Than Trump by a mile.

The pendulum is the point. Both parties are well bribed to maintain the capitalist's murderous control. Good cop and bad cop are both just fine with mass homelessness and entire murder for profit confidence scheme market sectors. One laughs at you when the capitalists cause you harm, the other just shrugs and says "golly gee market forces nothing we can do! But I affirm your right to die horribly as who you are here in this cardboard box under a freeway! Pronouns are free so whatever I still get bribed 😁" (edit to be clear, respecting others identity is the right thing to do and basic decency, but there's a hierarchy of needs, self-actualization only matters if you have your basic needs met. You cannot live in an affirmation ribbon, you cannot eat a preferred pronoun, priorities.)

If the Democrats were led by someone talking about redistribution, that bribe gravy train would stop. If by some miracle AOC manages to steal the party out from under them as Trump did the RNC, the DNC would be fighting her every move and comment the way we wish they were countering Trump right now. In fact, here's how Democrat leadership spent the months leading to Trump's inauguration:

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/12/aoc-pelosi-oversight-committee-connolly-raskin

Defending the country from one of the only slightly left Reps in the entire federal government.

Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi are far closer to Trump than AOC.

https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I still have to lol about how the stupid qons tried to use her dancing in university as some kind of BAD thing.

Back when Denver Post still had a comment section and they'd allow gifs, and if the topic was AOC, I'd post her dancing. A few of the local wingnuts would try to get me banned/my posts removed over it, esp. if one of the qanon mods was on-duty...

She's the best. Why the buzzkills in the unhinged right tried to paint a beautiful intelligent rep like AOC dancing during college as a bad thing is anyone's guess, but that sure as fuck blew up in their faces....

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So let me get this straight: somehow just dancing is somehow worse than drinking beers in fraternities and raping?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I’ve been saying for about 5 years, maybe better, that she is the person I am most excited to vote for as president of the United States one day.

I don’t even have another name in mind.

I will be as happy to vote for her as I was for Sanders in the primaries, twice. I legit can’t wait.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 days ago (6 children)

That's funny, because the dnc does not share any of her ideology, and it's not even close

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (17 children)

Zero chance the DNC will run her. They'll give us another white bread, right of center, compromise candidate. The Overton window has shifted so far right we need to build a new wall to house it.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Water is wet. Wasn't this obvious when the DNC kingmakers, I mean, leadership decided to boot her out of a key committee position with a person that that could have passed for a republican and retired after getting the position? A poll was needed to see this?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Make it clear to the Democratic Party establishment that progressive candidates will be on the ballot in every congressional district in Nov 2026, and they will be a spoiler candidate if they have to be. Either way, we are done with their shit. There will never be a better time.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (29 children)

I have said this elsewhere, but i will not again vote for the Democratic Party until they actually put up progressive candidates. Not pinky swear to pass progressive policy. That means the candidates has to have a provable history of struggling against the Democratic Party to pass progressive policy. There are only two i know of and that’s Bernie Sanders (who is too old for the presidency), and AOC. Else it’s third party until the democrats learn better.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (6 children)

My concern is that now that Trump is in office and project 2025 is in full swing, that we will never see another fair election again.

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