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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is, entirely unironically, the central tenant of the Catholic teaching on the subject.

It really does just boil down to "You can't adjudicate the morality of the Divine." And, for the most part, its a line of reasoning that hierarchical social structures condition us to accept. God is just the CEO of the Universe. If you accept that your boss at the toxic waste and murder machines factory is Beyond Good and Evil, believing it about God is downright trivial.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

One of the earliest forms of copium

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I tell this story a lot but as an escaped Xtian the thing that marks the moment I was fully off board with the church was hearing those magic words 'God works in mysterious ways'. I had heard it so many times because of course they say it all the freaking time but that was the time it really clicked for me that I won't be getting any real answers and can stop pretending.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

"He gave us free will" aka he doesn't want to.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A: He can't.

Dude forgot to add himself as admin.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

this user does not have sudo access

this incident will be reported.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The god the Abrahamists have chosen to worship is a weather and war god. So he is a vengeful dick.

When the Israelites were still polytheistic they worshipped, besides this war god, a sun god and a god of fertility in the Pantheon. Yet they’ve chosen to solely worship the war god. Says a lot about them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Amazing how much death and destruction have come out of arguing over who has the best Invisible Friend.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A: then he isn't god.

B: then he isn't good.

C: then he is evil.

D: the truth.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Growing up as an agnostic atheist, I loved the Epicurean argument. Now as an adult, I feel compelled to ask the definitions of the words Good, Evil, and God before talking about things.

I think most of the arguments surrounding these topics involves complex use of metaphors and abstract concepts that people can spend lifetimes defining, but are happy to argue about in a short form without a mutually agreed definition.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Please let me remake this:

A. He can't, so he is not worthy being worshiped.

B. He doesn't want, so he is not worthy being worshiped.

C. He causes them, so... uhm, actually maybe? Depends, is He doing terrible things to me and my friends, or my enemies?

D. He doesn't exist, so he is not worthy being worshiped.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Side comment - C is obviously excuse to let us do terrible things to them. If You like being evil, surem that do work.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don’t know. At this point I’m leaning toward C.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Me too, but only because I very strongly lean toward "god was created by man" rather than the other way around.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Really if you believe that God created the universe, then C logically follows.

But if we were created in the image of God, then B is very likely, too. Just look at what we do to characters that we create in The Sims.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yes, he didn't exist until he was invented. 😁🫠

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In one of the Discworld books there are two gods. One is the mighty Thunderer, who has temples all over the vast Empire. The other is a Frog God worshipped by a tribe of about fifty people in a swamp. When they have a fight the Frog knocks the other guy out, because nobody really believes in the Thunderer and the Frog's people have strong faith in him.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

there is a fucked up fifth answer that works for theists, E. terrible things don't exist

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

F is just B with rose tinted glasses.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Dinosaurs eat man. Woman inherits the earth!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Religious people be like:

he won't, because he doesn't interfere

He causes them, because it's the circle of life

He can't, because doing so would cause chaos

He doesn't exist, because you don't believe

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

He caused it/allowed it to happen because he wants to test YOUR faith and make sure you're cool with needless pain and suffering so long as it means you get to go to heaven/avoid an eternity of torture.

[–] NotMaster 7 points 2 weeks ago

For most catholic priests.... The D is always the answer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's all a test. If you can't put up with horrible shit while being alive, how you gonna become an angelic slave and sing happy songs for eternity?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

we are just bald monkeys, stop pretending otherwise

go fuck a banana!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I make my room filthy and dangerous every day. My roommates are getting hurt!

Why doesn't my mom clean it up for me? She certainly could. Does she want me to live in squalor? Perhaps she MAKES the mess!

IDK, maybe mom doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Does your mom...

Put eye parasites that blind children in your room?

Force you to eat and breathe through the same tube?

Give you horrible cancers?

Put drugs in your room and then get mad when you use them?

Tell you to love her unconditionally after doing all of these things?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

So anything bad that ever happens to you is your own fault?

Do you just walk around through life assuming cancer patients did something awful to deserve their disease? Cause that's the only way this analogy makes any sense...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No one claims your mom is omnipotent and omnipresent you eggplant. And if they did, you’d think nothing of such a ridiculous claim. Which is what a rational person would do.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

In Buddhism, the concept of God as a powerful creator is not central. The question of "why terrible things happen" is addressed through the teachings of karma and interdependence. Terrible things occur due to the collective actions aka karma of beings, influenced by ignorance, attachment, and aversion, rather than a deliberate act of a deity. Thus, from a Buddhist perspective, the most aligned answer would be that terrible things happen because of the causes and conditions created by sentient beings themselves, rather than any of the options listed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Think about the following:

In the medieval ages, people were popping out 5-15 children on average. Child mortality was extremely high, with roughly 80% of children dying before they were 5 y/o.

Now, what should god do (if they existed)? Let the children life and cause overpopulation, which leads to famine and disaster, or kill a lot of children? There's literally no solution.

That was until contraceptives were found. And interestingly, contraceptives exist at roughly the same time that antibiotics exist, thus preventing both high child-mortality and overpopulation.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Isn't there that philosophical argument about how God can't be both all-good and all-powerful? If he's all-good, he would have to stop bad things.

It's been well over a decade since philosophy class, but this reminded me of that argument.

Forgot who made it though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Epicurus.

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

It's the Epicurean Paradox https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurean_paradox

In summary:

If God is unable to prevent evil, then he is not all-powerful. If God is not willing to prevent evil, then he is not all-good. If God is both willing and able to prevent evil, then why does evil exist?

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