This, joined into their christian fascist neo-fundamentalist, pop evangelicalism.
Jesus would be some kinda anarchist- socialist.
this post was submitted on 24 May 2025
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Yes because the only thing we're good for is optimal productivity. /s
And I bet they did 0% of their "research" with jobs like programming, accounting, teaching, or anything that isn't like a field or factory job.
Running off of their own logic here - tech bros and bullshit jobs were largely not a thing in Bible times, so we should abandon AI and Facebook.
Finanacial fuckery was heavily frowned upon by their main guy, to the point he flipped tables over it. Let’s eliminate all debt interest too, since that’s usury and a sin.
Rich people are going to hell, so let’s redistribute wealth and prioritize the poor, the sick, women and children. Y’know, to give the billionaires a chance at heaven.
They’re also pretty strictly told to stay tf out of government as well, since it’s not their world to inhabit and their inheritance is in the next life. So no theocracy, because that goes against their teachings. Stay within your churches and be relentlessly kind to your neighbors. Anyone who claims to be a “God-fearing, Bible following” Christian should step down from politics immediately.
Did I miss anything?
Usery (interest) is expressly forbidden in the New testament, so Christians couldn't give loans with interest. That's where the bad old banker stereotype for Jews comes from, as well, I imagine, as the bad old stereotypes of Jews as the wealthy elite secretly controlling society. They were, essentially, the finance bros of the geopolitical reality in old Europe, because nobody else could issue loans with interest. If we want to "get back to Christian values", then we need to ban charging interest.
I'm actually doing a readthrough now and there's a LOT of different stuff, a lot of contradictory stuff, and a lot of dudes that have some serious incel level hangups (looking at you two, ezekiel and paul) but then there's just some bits that absolutely go hard (like the whipping you mentioned, or the times the pharisees be saying stuff about how the religious laws are this or that and jesus goes oooooofffffff ✨🫰✨🫰✨🫰✨ ) but the two things that are actually super consistent are a) do not work on the sabbath b) rich people are fundamentally evil, both with various ways of being said and various punishments up to and including death.
There's also a number of items under the general umbrella of what kinds of sex are good or bad but the specifics are highly variable and often contradictory such as having multiple wives, having children with the female servants, etc being fine or even a sign of status in some books then in later ones it's explicitly a 1:1 deal. I would argue the only consistent item there is that you can make promise to only have sex with a person or certain set of people and you're expected to keep that contract and respect similar ones that others have made. You can say "Adam and eve not Adam and Steve" all you want but what about Jacob Rachel and Leah also taking place in the book of Genesis? The only definite thing about the bible's concept of marriage is that there's few if any definites.
There are a few people described as generally successful but it's usually more in terms of owning / leading a people as a clan / tribe than it is in terms of having money specifically. Like it'll describe the number of servants in the household, their tents, the herds, etc. The only person described positively who has "wealth" in the more modern sense is Solomon, and it's explicitly stated that this was given to him because the one thing he asked god for before anything else was the wisdom to be a good leader, and that the wealth he had was a result of using that wisdom. Like the whole thing where he suggests the baby be cut in half to sus out which woman is the real mother is preceded by a dream the night before where god asks "hey what should I bless you with" and solomon is literally just like "look I just got appointed king and I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing and all I want is to know how to do this properly" and god was like BET. And it's followed by him choosing advisors / administrators that he he uses that wisdom to judge trustworthy enough to delegate decision making to (just read this one last night actually and I vibed with it pretty hard. I don't actually want any responsibility for other people's bullshit, but I feel like it would be a lot easier to do the right thing in life if it was a lot clearer to me what that actually is).
The discussion of where I'm personally at spiritually is a much longer story than I'm going to bother writing out here but the short version is that I mostly just want to know everything that's in it. I feel like if you're really going to truly engage genuinely with this you've gotta acknowledge both the historical context and the deeply complex and fundamentally imperfect humanity of both the writers and the people they're describing. Like even beyond,"these are all divinely inspired allegories," I feel like it's more,"this is one of the oldest books in the world that has managed to last through the ages in some form or another because it speaks to the human experience" and I'd like to learn more about why so I'm starting with just finding out what's in there.
Job: am I a joke to you?
(God: Well akshually…)
If Americans want to mold themselves in Jesus' image of Christian perfection, the rich men in the world have to give to the poor, aka eat the rich.
Matthew Chapter 19, verses 21 to 24
Jesus told him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me."
When the young man heard this, he went away in sorrow, because he had great wealth.
Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
Love the followup to that verse.
Master, who then can be saved?
Jesus, internally: Oh, shit, good point, uhh...
What is impossible for man is not impossible for God.
Dude was just talking out his ass the whole time.
Lol. But the overall point is, regardless of whatever you believe in, the common theme of moral teachings is to be good to others, not how many hours you should work or how many times one should be beaten for a transgression. Anything else gained from religious text or tradition is a speculative interpretation brought from the ancient to the modern context, and should be taken and understood as such.
be careful with this one because the types of people this applies to will just twist its meaning into "people need to own less/nothing. Minimum wage is too high. The Bible says having enough money to survive is bad"
They twisted "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" which was an example of expecting the poor to do the impossible into blaming the poor. They will twist literally everything, so there is no reason to be careful.
I heard this preached at church a few weeks ago, the gist of it was, that Jesus knew how important being rich was to the man and until he let go of that, he could never let Love fully into his life
The American Right-Wing Christians don't seem to care for Jesus - they appear to pretty much ignore everything in the New Testament because it's "lefty and woke". They do seem to like the Old Testament bits where you kill/enslave/rape/rob people who are weaker or slightly different from you.
So that's why they love Israel so much! /joking
Oh, they like Jesus well enough to be huge fans of his “get out of jail free” card that comes with believing in him. That way, the most evil people in the world believe that they can get away with it in the afterlife, using this “one simple trick“.
@Rentlar You're not wrong, but the reality is the Christians in America (especially the ultra rich) are strictly there for performative purposes.
Their half assed religion is yet another extension of their privilege and arrogance, and yet another reason why I would happily donate to whoever razes their way of life to the ground.
https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/god-bible-were-right-work-schedule-all-along.amp
Holy fucking shit America
Actually the reason most cultures used a seven day week is found in nature.
There are five planets visible in the night sky, plus the Moon and the Sun.
7 days is also about a quarter of a lunar cycle, which makes more sense than the number of celestial bodies.
Everything is based on nature
He looks like a supervillain.
nah, supervillains have style. he's more of a minion
Nothing on Fox news is a real news article.
Fox News is the onion except it’s a) not funny, and b). Fucking morons believe what’s on it
Only in America.
To capitalists, humans are nothing but tools to enrich themselves. That's why it's called "Human Resources". To them, you are literally nothing more: A resource to be exploited, like fruit from a fruit tree. They squeeze out the lemon to sell the juice and then throw the dry shell of the fruit to the composter.
What many rich people have is sociopathy, which means an absence of empathy and understanding for what it means to be human. We must remember to be human, whether you name that "socialism" or just better laws that are made for the people.
There are rich people in every economy type. It's not just capitalism.
yeah, i agree, there are assholes everywhere. capitalism has just formalized and streamlined how-to-be-an-asshole. but there are other bad systems as well, of course.
That's literally just the nature of money.
Root of all evil, and all that.
You're seeing the trees and not the forest.
Man is not made to work, the proof: it tires him out.
That's 11 5-hour days a week. How tf am I supposed to do that??
He looks like a Jerry Anderson puppet of a criminal megalomaniac.
Oh coming from those controlling everyone. Eff you!!
There is no God. It's a delusion and sign of mental illness.
That man has a gun poking him in the back making him say this.
Not necessary. They pay him a lot of money for saying it.
i like how his eyes are crossed
I have this orange-ass blazer, but no accounting for taste on that tie....yeesh