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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I hate how IDEs with error checking check the code at every character. Like my dude, we got this shit right with text editors having spell check back in 1997. Wait just a moment before checking please. All the time when I'm typing the editor freaks the fuck out, this is wrong, this is wrong, here is an error, wtf is this supposed to mean? And then when I type the ) or whatever, all is well. Just give me a freaking second to work and think.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

I'd say it's probably happening because the syntax parser runs every character to be able to provide auto complete, and error tracking is a part of that system. I wonder if there's a plugin that introduces some smart delay between when the error is detected and when it's displayed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

You can thank search engines on mobile for that, pure idiocy

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

vim evangelists incoming although they are on panel 3

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

Bold of you to assume I even use auto complete!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

"clicks"? Where we're going we don't need... "clicks"!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Well, my autocompletes works fine but I thinks it's a lot thanks to vscode, which seems to have pushed LSP.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One doesn't know how to code if they cannot spell the whole word.

(Turn off autocomplete for a day and test your actual knowledge.)

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Are you even a real programmer if you haven't fixed a prod critical but in notepad++ because your ide won't open for whatever reason?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've done critical fixes (usually config) direct on a prod server with vim over ssh before now. Not the best way to do it but sometimes waiting for CI will just take too long...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Old school "CI/CD" was an FTP server where you dropped DLLs into I remember

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I once fixed an important bug by force-pushing on the master branch (I was an admin too and could do it). I had 5 minutes to fix it, and no one was aware of it. I didn't ask for permission but I was sweating a lot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I've lost track of the number of Report Builder files I've had to update via Notepad++ - the intended editor has so many weird kinks and corner cases it's often easier to just edit the file directly!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Maybe old IDEs. Like Eclipse 10-20 years ago.

Modern IDEs don’t really have these issues as frequently.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Visual Studio has these issues daily.

Ten years ago VS was awesome. In the last 2 years, all they added is AI crap and every other feature got more buggy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Your experience is far from universal. Working with actual code files, visual studio works very good.

Mix in XAML blazor, however...

(Note that both file formats are abstractions from which C# classes are.generated...)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I have a faint memory of working with Eclipse but shelved it due to making Java even slower than my dog walking towards his shower. Is it still alive and viable?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you tried modern Eclipse on Wayland? Save often!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have not. Last time I used Eclipse (maybe 10 years ago) I got so frustrated it prompted me to learn Vim.

I’m currently mostly using IntelliJ these days.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Oh I don't know. 1,3,5 and 6 resonate strongly with me for Visual Studio 2022. The only reason 4 doesn't is because instead of looking for a setting I DDG "how do I do X in VS2022"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

modern IDEs are dog shit. If I needed a glorified clippy telling me how to do my job I'd smash my brains out all over my keyboard.

Give me an editor with the following and I'll be good for life.

  • syntax highlighting/error flagging
  • project scoping
  • script injection
  • ftp/scp

nice to have:

  • db viewer (SQL/sqlite)
  • json viewer
  • diff
  • git/vcs

if an editor can do all that I can make it do whatever I need.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I had similar opinion, but I’ve changed my mind. Now I can barely do any serious work without an IDE.

The main feature I’m after is code completion. Just getting a peek of which methods are available is something I can’t be without.

Code hints like ”this expression will always evaluate to false” is great to capture difficult to spot mistakes.

Code usage it’s is a must when doing refactors. It makes it easy to analyze how a method is used before I commit to a refactor.

Debugger and profiler is also nice to have.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just use Vim!

(This user was taken out back and shot)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do all my edits using sed inserts, like a real dev.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just use ed like the gods intended

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I use butterflies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

What about Edd and Eddy?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pfff, all these amateurs here using Vim. Y'all should use Emacs. You still have all of these problems, but you get to act all superior about it. /s (except for the superiority complex; that's real)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I use Emacs honestly just because it’s more FUN for me. It’s such an open book internally that when things break, I find I can usually figure it out. There aren’t that many environments that really feel that way. I get that it’s not everybody’s cup of tea, but man am I glad to have it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The fediverse is just so geeky. I don't know what this means. The wikipedia article kinda makes sense, but there's a lot of terminology in there. It seems like an advanced editor with many features - like a bat-mobile for programmers, but it keeps breaking down?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Basically yeah, it's a text editor with a lot of features geared towards making programing easier, e.g. an equivalent of a spell checker but for code. Like any software, some IDEs/features can be either poorly designed or unstable, which can be aggravating when you spend your day working with it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are IDEs the microsoft word of programming?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Yes and no.

You can avoid all these problems by just coding in Word ofc, but then again all these problems will still happen

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Except for buried settings, only Visual Studio is like this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

IDE - The precursor to SATA? I don't get it...

Edit: Learn something new every day! Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

From my limited knowledge (just started learning python) an IDE (integrated developing environment) is a program where you can do multiple things in one place while writing a program like coding, debugging or even running your application

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I never knew it used to be a storage standard. Turns out it was renamed to PATA at some point.

As someone else said, IDE refers to development software like Visual Studio, Eclipse, and others. Nowadays a lot of text editors (VS Code/ium, Sublime Text, and many others) come with enough features to pass as an IDE too, but some people still somehow differentiate between them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, they are not a flat rectagle creature with arms and legs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know you joke but topheavy IDEs are discouraging new coders at an alarming rate

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More than the complete collapse of the programming profession is discouraging new coders?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can someone tell me if I'm just stupid and doing something wrong ?

Neovim with Python lsp works 90000% better than any Python extension on vscode for me. I don't hate vscode and I occasionally use it but it kind of sucks for python ? Does anyone have any kind of info that could help, what extensions are you using ?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

vscode isn't an ide either. one of the big problems i've seen with its python lsp server is that it doesn't work if the project structure is "wrong", which means that usability is limited.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Crys in Vivado

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Unreal Engine certainly is.

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