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[–] [email protected] 310 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Oof he isn’t convicted but the media isn’t saying “allegedly” in headlines for him. Shows how they’re trying to sway public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 3 weeks ago

Defense has brought it up multiple times already, it's biasing the jury pool

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago

Was it supposed to be a direct quote from the DA? Even if so, it shouldn’t be in the headline.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Public opinion is already swayed. Luigi Mangione has become a symbol to a lot of people and as such the super-rich want to punish him.

I bet they are more scared of the symbol than they are of the thought that Mangione is innocent and the real shooter might still be free and plotting another hit.

The "real shooter" would only be one person, but a symbol has the power to create 10 or 100 more or to spark a violent rebellion and that they can't let happen.

Innocent or not, it's unfortunately Luigi Mangione they need punished in the most horrific and exemplar way possible.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

I guess he's not getting a fair trial, they'll have to jury nullify the shit out of it.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's actually very surprising - it starts with "DA says" which is presumably their defamation defense, but usually the lawyers wouldn't let that pass.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 161 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

after Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson

Has he already been convicted?

Terrible headline, but I can only guess that "Business insider" would rather defend a corrupt CEO than the victim of insurance hell.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There's no question the general public already believes he killed the guy, if people didn't, we wouldn't have all the Luigi memes and people using "Luigi" as a substitute for assassination.

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson"

Objection, baseless speculation.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This post either needs to be removed or retitled. Luigi is not convicted and this perpetuates a huge problem in the US of assigning guilt to people through public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

There is nothing here stating Mangione has been convicted of anything.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"after Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson" is the problem - he allegedly killed that guy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"DA says..." This is not the author making that assessment, it's the DA. Naturally the DA is going to say he killed the guy, same as I do, or anyone making Luigi memes does.

There's no obligation for a reporter to insert "allegedly" where it was not stated.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

And the DA is wrong for saying that, alongside the reporter for not correcting them.

You sound like the type of person Brandolini's Law is based on.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's saying he murdered the CEO, when he has not been proven/convicted of doing so. How are you a moderator making decisions like that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

If nobody believes he killed the CEO then everyone needs to immediately retract all the Luigi memes.

It's clear he shot the guy, the only question is how justified it is.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Innocent until some guy on Lemmy says otherwise?

Oh wait, no, it still has to be proven.

Unless you were present at the time, you've seen some videos. Perhaps it's not likely, but videos can be faked, more easily now than ever before.

Proof first.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

Lemmy isn't a court of law, neither is the Internet. It's pretty much universally accepted he killed the guy, if it wasn't, we wouldn't have the hero worship.

What the court is going to decide is if he's justified or not.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy isn't a court of law, neither is the Internet.

Proceeds to cite general Internet opinion as proof of guilt.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I agree that "DA says..." is equal to "alleged," but you lost the thread with "it's clear he shot the guy."

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He didn't kill anyone though. He's innocent.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I know it's uncooth to dehumanize anyone, but CEOs like Brian murdered (and the rest continuing to murder all day every day) more people than any serial killer in history because they oversaw automating the process of selling the confidence scheme and then murdering the marks when they threatened the profits of the confidence scheme when they got sick.

People like Jack the Ripper and Ted kaczynski were pathetic, inept hobbyists at mass murder next to an American "healthcare" ceo, and it isn't close.

And we don't hold them in even lower regard solely because they do it to get ever richer, which is the only practiced American religion.

As humans go, Brian was somewhere between a serial killer and an even larger scale mass murderer like Adolf Hitler in terms of his practiced inhumanity, maybe he should be dehumanized a little.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

If that's terrorism then what do we call the death and pain caused by pursuit of profits?

If they want to have a discussion about labels, it's not gonna go well in front of a jury.

At every step defense should be asking the jury:

If you had been killed, would this be happening? Why are lives valued differently

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

So how many of the execs said, “This job isn’t worth risking my life for” and quit? How many of them said, “Maybe we should examine how we do business and change.”? How many of them said, “My God. We’re killing people. I’m out.”?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago

Nah if literally murdering people for profit didn't stop them then really nothing will. These people are sociopaths that only see the career ladder.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like Luigi's perceived actions created jobs and fostered better health for the community at large.

Someone put this man in government

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

40x~$75$/hr = $3000/hr they're willing to spend instead of giving you insurance you paid for

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Luigi Mangione allegedly killed CEO????? Are we just dropping that now????

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

And not a single one of them paused and went "wait, maybe the choices we're making are the problem here?" Instead, it was "keep being evil, but now with bodyguards!"

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

what defendant considered a deadly greed-fueled cartel," Seidemann wrote.

I mean, what are they, then?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago

That sounds like a "Them" problem and has no bearing on the case Mr. DA

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't be giant greedy pieces of shit, you won't need body guards.

#MakeBillionairesFearAgain.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you ever tried not being an asshole?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If your job requires armed professionals and costumes,you shouldn't be in business

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

Good. They should live in constant fear.

Industrialized social murder should be a dangerous profession.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why should 40 assholes hiding from someone who is already in custody gave any bearing on his case?

My gf dyed her hair last week, must be a criminal in chains somewhere!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Did they consider not being evil shitbags?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

I mean the easiest solution is not to work for a hostile company and a public enemy/threat.

Those companies, and that one notoriously, kill 1000's so they are a hostile enemy, actively attacking the populace.

Now I know legalese will fancy it up, but shit smells. Can't hide it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

Excuse me, ma'am, I'm looking for a woman that looks just like you but is a redhead. Have you seen her?

"No..."

Damn. Okay. Thanks. gunman walks off, dissapointed

"Whew, glad I dyed my hair."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

So you're saying that whoever Luigi is taking the wrap for is a job creator?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They'll do anything to save themselves except for stop being evil.

Sometimes I wonder if those second-tier execs are even more culpable than the CEOs. Like, we expect CEOs to be psychopaths. But those second-tier guys that got a seat further down the table, off the back of a good degree and a few decades of hard work? They know what they're doing is wrong but choose to go along with it anyway because they're just following orders.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

Keep them afraid.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

Scared CEOs—finally, a guilt-free fetish.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

Good. Something to consider when you're making life and death decisions for other people in the future.

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