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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (23 children)

It is almost 20 months since Israel launched a military campaign in Gaza in response to the unprecedented Hamas-led cross-border attack on Israel on 7 October 2023

It is almost 20 months since the US-backed colonial occupation launched its extermination campaign in Gaza in response to the ghetto uprising on 7 October 2023

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I cringe every time I read “the war in Gaza”. It is clearly a genocide. There is no way one could say otherwise, in good faith. The fact that my tax dollars are funding this sickens me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Tell me… how many civilians did the Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto murder? Was the IDF transporting trainloads of Civilians from Gaza to extermination camps?

It’s necessary to call out „Bibi“ and his friends and get them far away from any kind of power asap and forever. Also a whole lot of IDF troops (just like any like-to-be religious facists from the government) should get an „invitation“ to The Hague.

But comparing the massacre from October 7th to the Warsaw ghetto uprising is just ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Israel didn't need to put them on trains to extermination camps, they just turned the entirety of Gaza into an extermination camp.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The Nazis built literal murder-factories. The only purpose of those buildings was to murder as many people as possible and dispose of the bodies fast and efficiently. They tried to catch everyone that fit their definition of so called „unworthy life“ from all over Europe and brought them to their extermination camps to murder them. This is not what happened in Gaza before October 7th and it’s not what’s happening there now.

Even if half the stuff I read about Gaza was made up, there would be still more than enough reason to put Bibi and his goons behind bars forever. I think it’s necessary to be as precise and accurate as possible when talking about these kind of crimes because the truth is horrible enough without spicing it up with history-forgotten comparisons.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It's not far off. They're absolutely trying to kill all of Gaza at once. There's a reason they're repeatedly attacking anyone who brings food, including World Central Kitchen.

You're aware of the food traps, right?

They absolutely will not allow Greta to bring aid to Gaza. They'd kill her if the PR wasn't so bad.

Unlike a lot of the Gaza sympathizers, I do not excuse Oct 7th. It was an attack on Israel. It was not justified. Israel has a right to defend itself.

This isn't defense. This is genocide. They're trying to solve the problem permanently by killing nearly every last one of them. It's a Final Solution.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

They had complete control over the lives of people in Gaza to the point of calorie counting how much food was allowed in.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Was the IDF transporting trainloads of Civilians from Gaza to extermination camps?

They didn't need to, their victims are already in the concentration camp, they just dumped unlimited amounts of US-made bombs gifted to them by their colonial patrons.

Also a whole lot of IDF troops (just like any like-to-be religious facists from the government) should get an „invitation“ to The Hague.

At this point every American politician acting on behalf of this should need to get tried for complicity as well.

This was a ghetto uprising, sickening that you feel the need to defend their executioners. The "murder factories" are on American soil, no need to ship people on trains, the colonists will happily deliver the US-made bombs to their victims.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Do we consider the armed German settlers living around the ghetto in a foreign country civilians? I mean they brought their own children to help colonize their new living space.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Feddit.org users again trying to act like they care about palestinians. You are ignoring the fact that every single goddamn israeli government was oppresing palestinians and comiting act of terrorism

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (10 children)

That was not a ghetto uprising, that was unchecked violence against Israeli civilians by terrorists. You do Gaza's suffering civilians no justice by tying their plight to the actions of Hamas on Oct 7. Their only crime is existing.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

not interested in your respectability politics shit, the American enablers have contributed far more to the suffering civilians than Hamas ever has by resisting their extermination.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not interested in your bullshit takes that would only incite more violence against the Gaza civilians by painting Oct 7 as a popular uprising.

Honestly think before you speak if you actually care about these people.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Learn the history of Israel’s illegal occupation and siege before demonizing the resistance

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Hey here comes the comfortable westerner to tell everyone what they think is bad optics.

This genocide could never happen without the Biden and Trumps full support. Hand-wrining about "terrorism" only serves defending the perpetrators while posing like you care about victims.

Sickening behavior really, but I'm used to it by now. American soldiers are terrorists, IDF are terrorists.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

It is a ghetto uprising. Israel before the genocide used to calorie count the food allowed in.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Oct 7 terrorist attacks weren't ghetto uprising. They weren't spontaneous, grassroots, or widespread. They were premeditated terrorist attacks by specific terrorist groups to cause as much harm as they could to the nearby Israeli population. The first and second intifadas could be argued as ghetto uprisings, this is nothing like that.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Been going on a lot longer than that...

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hope Germany, France, Brazil, Sweden, Turkey, Spain, the Netherlands, and Ireland starting fighting for the return of their hostages now that Israel has illegally kidnapped them. If not, what a fucking betrayal of the social contract, beyond how shredded and tattered that's become in the modern day and age.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Yeah that's not happening, Sweden's foreign Minister has already come out and said that Greta Thunberg is safe, is a moron, and doesn't need help but if she does then she'll get the same help by the embassy as any other Swedish citizen:

Several protesters had gathered outside the Parliament House on Monday. This is to call on the Swedish government to act against Greta Thunberg and several other activists being arrested at sea outside Gaza.

"Israel has, as we judge, some opportunities to escort this ship with the international law," the foreign minister said when she was interviewed outside the Chamber.

Israel claims Thunberg is “safe.” Swedish Foreign Minister Maria Malmer Stenergard believes that Thunberg is currently not in need of the Ministry for Foreign Affairs’ support.

"There is a great responsibility on those who choose to travel in violation of the advice that exists into a place," says Malmer Stenergard.

“If she gets a need for consular support, we will do everything we can, just as we do with all Swedish citizens,” she continues. Encouraged to put pressure

The Ministry for Foreign Affairs is said to have been called down on Monday, says Malmer Stenergard. This after Greta Thunberg on social media urged “friends, family and comrades” to put pressure on Sweden’s government. This is what Maria Malmer Stenergard can have consequences.

“It is quite dangerous to conduct a campaign that means that the Ministry for Foreign Affairs’ consular emergency services will be called down. As a consequence, that the needy Swedes in the world will have to wait far too long in line, says the foreign minister.

Source: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/maria-malmer-stenergard-kritiserar-aktivister-efter-gretas-gripande

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Israeli government needs to release their hostages.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (24 children)

This is something that I see a lot and it's irks me the wrong way every time. I know that people on the internet get emotional, but we gotta stop abusing words. The word hostage describes something very specific, in this case it's this:

a person held by one party in a conflict as a pledge pending the fulfillment of an agreement (source)

Basically a hostage is a prisoner that is specifically held captive to be used as a bargaining chip.

This is precisely the reason why the hostages taken by Hamas are called as such. They were taken with intention of using them to cut a deal with Israel later on. But in this case, Israel is very unlikely to use the people on this boat to negotiate any deal, we don't even know if they're even going to be detained or released once the ship gets routed to one Israel's ports. But if Israel does detain after the fact then that's just imprisonment.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They have absolutely used Palestinian prisoners as bargaining chips. Many imprisoned Palestinians have not been convicted of a crime.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The only ones ever trying to devalue the meaning of words are fascists.

Many Palestinians in Israeli prisons were put in there for resisting settlers when they started taking land.

Those are hostages, not prisoners.

But when Hamas takes hostages they are indisputably hostages.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh man! C'mon guys, good luck out there. I hope you return to your homes safe and sound. Brave people.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The crew include Rima Hassan, a Franco-Palestinian deputy of the U.E (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rima_Hassan), that has been elected to defend Palestine inside the European Parlement. So that's not a surprise that the crew has a better treatment that the others.

I'm surprise that the article do not mention her presence

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Why would Joe Biden do this?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I really don't understand the point you're trying to make here. Are you trying to imply he was't complicit in the genocide? His administration sent billions (with a b!) in military aid to Israel, as they were committing a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I'm assuming the lack of /s is what's getting people here

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Wasn't that the plan in the first place, to get media attention?

There was no other realistic option.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've seen this one... it's called The Phantom Menace

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Would it be feasible to chill off the coast and use drones to bypass the blockade to deliver aid?

I'm sure the range is too far or someone would have already done it, but it's an idea.

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