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[-] [email protected] 128 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And also how often the movie is completely oblivious to that. For example it's been a while since I saw "Devil wears Prada" but if I remember right, the ending is:

Our main character has an argument with her boyfriend

Goes to a business trip in Paris

Sleeps with random guy

Returns home and makes up with her boyfriend

And the movie ends like nothing happened, she's happy, that's what's important

[-] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Her probably:

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

not betraying your partner's trust is important too. cheating is disgusting, selfish behaviour

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

They break up in the end.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

i wish my wife would do this so that i can stick my asshole on fire

[-] And009 9 points 1 month ago

European laws be kinky

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[-] [email protected] 88 points 1 month ago

More troubling to me is how many romance movies have our protagonist stalk their love interest, who has already explicitly rejected them... and it works, because their obsession is framed as "love at first sight" and "not giving up on love".

Oh, and the other common trope, non-consensual voyeurism... and it works, because the woman is 'flattered' that the guy finds her attractive.

...How good is the "pop culture detective" YouTube channel?

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[-] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago

This makes me wonder how many women are quite unhappy in their marriage, and are willing to jump at the nearest opportunity.

Kinda depressing to think about, actually.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Work with elderly. Coworker said "how many of these women do you think have gone their entire live without an orgasm." It connected a lot of dots. The no orgasm to elderly fox news white women is the school shooter pipeline for wasp women.

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Boomer tropes exist because divorce was illegal.

You were expected to get married and stay married. You'd have unprotected sex with your high school boyfriend, you're goddamn right you were gonna keep the baby, and you were going to live together until one of you died. Even if it meant separate beds and not asking why he frequented that bar by the docks.

Blame Catholicism. That's usually a fair bet.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While there are quite a few people who would jump ship from their marriage, that's not why the trope so popular. It's just that a lot of people like different forms of "forbidden love". Although most don't actually dream of doing those things, it's pure fantasy.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

s/women/people/

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

"You know what would make this marriage better? Cheating!"

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Great romance requires a choice. It's difficult to find a choice that matters, ideally it is something they already have, but are giving up. That's why all the hallmark movies work because a big city girl is giving up her career to grow cucumbers or something. Making a choice to take a job somewhere else doesn't work because it's a future thing - giving up an opportunity is not the same as giving up a realized life situation. Infidelity really works because it's a former dream, and it means giving up stability, status, comfort for the unknown.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago

It works from a story perspective but it sends a very terrible message.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

It also doesn't help that it has some heritage from courtly romance, if youve ever wondered why Guinevere and Lancelot have a thing going on in Arthurian mythology that's why. The French were enamored with courtly romance and guess who helped forge modern romance.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I don’t know anything about what you said but I feel that we are on the same team

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

There's so many songs, TV shows, movies, etc, that's all romance or love stories that contain very blatant infidelity.

What tickles me is when very monogamous, very religious people talk that stuff up.... Like it's such a good song/movie/show... Ha. You have fantasies of leaving your spouse and running off with a younger, more attractive person. You slut.

I'm not religious, but I found a partner that gets me. Guess what. I'm not fantasizing about running off with some mythical "better" or "more romantic" person. Yeah, we're living together unmarried, and we're good like that. You rushed into marriage for God knows what reasons and now you live in regret. Good job.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Are you saying you don't like piña coladas?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Piña colada is a "you both awful and deserve each other"

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

And most of the time it is women cheating. I think it is because these movies are made mostly for women and it is like porn for them.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

it is like porn for them.

You think that seeing other women cheat on their partners is like porn for women?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

You might be internalizing those movie scripts and your own lived experience. A cursory Google search indicates the opposite.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

What do you mean? I am saying what happens in the movies, the movies which mostly women watch. I didn’t say it was real.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

So you meant to say:

And most of the time it is women cheating in those movies.

Which, fair enough if that's what you meant.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Honestly that seems a little pedantic. I read their comment and understood just fine they were talking about those.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

We were talking about movies. So yes, I was talking about what happens in movies.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

I don't mind infidelity in media when the one being cheated on is "evil" in some ways like they're abusive or not in love. Still icky though. It's just very different when it's something like that versus "I'm cheating because you're bad at sex."

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It's usually "we have gotten bad at sex" and there's no conversation about it. Maybe it wasn't meant to be. Talk about and figure it out. Then leave. Don't be a fucking dipshit about it.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

I saw Casablanca for the first time 2 weeks ago, and yep, checks out.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

If I remember Casablanca right she doesn't actually knowingly cheat on her husband at any point. The woman has a relationship with Rick when she believes her husband to be dead before the events of the movie that we hear about 2nd hand. Then in the movie Rick helps her and her husband escape Casablanca.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Infidelity is widespread, because it comes from human nature. Instead of vilifying it we should strive to find and normalize forms of relationships that allow for more liberty without the necessity of lying and cheating.

[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago

What’s to stop anyone today from having an open conversation with their partner about opening their relationship? In the examples above, no one is vilifying having an open relationship… it’s vilifying lying and dishonesty.

Even if we were to normalize infidelity, that doesn’t mean anyone should be beholden to accepting it in their relationship. Your argument is akin to saying “lying is widespread because it comes from human nature” so we should just normalize lying.

F that noise.

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[-] himitsu 16 points 1 month ago

Studies show that more open relationships do not decrease cheating, because the openness of the relationship is not the draw of cheating.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Your exact same argument could be made for murder, for sex crimes, for hate crimes, etc. Just because some people might occasionally want to commit these acts, does not make them okay, because they hurt people.

Open relationships already exist. There is no limit on what kind of relationship you can define with your partner, so there is absolutely no "necessity of lying and cheating". That is just an excuse for people who don't give a shit about hurting people.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

It sounds like the point they're making is more: "we internalize and understand relationship norms through serial monogamy, and maybe more people would benefit from reconsidering if that is what they want."

Not: "You wanna cheat on your partner? Just do it lol."

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I recently heard Docket by Blondshell for the first time and favorited it right away.

Then I listened again more tuned in and noticed it was about infidelity and thought “aw man”, unfavorited and moved on.

Heard it a couple more times and realized it wasn’t glorifying cheating, lines like “my worst nightmare is me”. Back on the list! Real rollercoaster.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Remember when the hottest song on the radio was Follow Me by Uncle Cracker?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Holy shit I just looked up the lyrics, I'm glad I was ignorant to them at the time

I'm not worried

'Bout the ring you wear

'Cause as long as no one knows

Then nobody can care

You're feelin' guilty

And I'm well aware

But you don't look ashamed

And baby I'm not scared

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

On the other hand that is also one of those things that annoys me about romance culture, the whole notion of your girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband being "stolen" by someone else as if your partner was just a passive object instead of being the actual person in the cheating who made promises to you (which might or might not include sexual exclusivity depending on mutually agreed upon preferences between everyone in the relationship) and should keep those promises or break up with you no matter what any third person tempts them with.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Bothered me significantly in the will they/won't they dynamic of The Office.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

The OG premise of The Office was similar to Seinfeld. They were all supposed to be awful people. Jim and Dwight and Michael were just three different flavors of incel. Jim hitting on a soon-to-be-married woman was supposed to be off-putting and gross. The front office guys treating the back office guys like trash was supposed to be elitist and revolting.

But because the writers needed to give you someone to root for, and because Jim was the "hot one" in a show full of normal looking people (aka the writers room from a bunch of sitcoms who thought it would be funny to have a show where they play each other's characters), they had to justify Pam breaking up and getting together with Jim. And then they had to turn the Jim/Pam arc into Friends. And then they had to turn the Dwight/Angela and Michael/Jan arcs into Friends. And by the final season they were just, like, "Fuck it, this show is now the same as Friends."

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