The land of the free, where you're not allowed outside after 8pm. Holy shit this is just sad.
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I'm okay with it. You can't have roving mobs destroying your city every night. I think the cerfew itself is a bit heavy handed, but my understanding is that it covers a very small area. And it doesn't affect the daytime peacful protests, so it isn't squashing the protesting really, just trying to cut down on the damage.
we never had roving mobs destroying the city, at any time of day….
Party of small government telling us we can't go outside at night anymore.
Remind me which party removes rights.
I think we know who LAPD prefers and that MAGA is in favor of authoritarian responses, but the curfew was declared by LA's Democratic mayor.
So many baffling decisions being made by all sides.
trump took control of the state national guard under false pretenses to send them to a city that was protesting against ICE agents illegally disappearing people, and the LAPD is PROTECTING the ICE agents and national guard instead of siding with the people of LA. No one is coming to save us. Curfew protects ICE, not the people.
Yup. “Ok guys protest is over. Be good and go home while we build better defenses. See you tomorrow!”
I don’t think the peaceful protesters (which are by far the majority) care about them building defenses.
Curfews are meant for children not for adults with constitutional rights and a free country. it's just another tool they use to arrest more protesters.
Curfews staying at 8pm specifically fuck over the late night workers, too
The crackdown came after California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, filed an emergency request to block the Trump administration from using military forces to accompany Ice officers on raids throughout LA.
It could also be said that this is to protect them against military forces while that is being worked out. Lesser of two evils and all that. Better to be arrested locally than shot :shrug:
Protestors are adults who understand and accept the risks.
People are going to die defending democracy. And the jackboots will most likely shoot first. We all know this.
War is coming, let’s stop pretending it’s not gonna happen.
Why would Americans need protection from American troops?
There's a curfew? Fucking hell.
This may be a bit heavy-handed, but it is done for a reason. Trump wants to use "lawlessness" as an excuse to send troops in.
By implementing this curfew and making these arrests, the LAPD can demonstrate that it has the situation under control, and there is no need for the Feds to get involved. If California's lawsuit against the Feds ends up working, and the court finds the troop deployment unlawful, this curfew enforcement might very well be the reason.
Arbitrarily restricting the freedom of people, which of course provokes people to respond to it, to appease a Fascist government is not "having the situation under control". It is siding with the Fascists against the people.
If they are certain about the unlawfulness of ICE attacks, they could arrest those thugs, especially when they roam around unidentified and behind masks.
If they are concerned with the safety of protestors and want to show that they have the situation under control, they could organize with protest organizers to protect the protests against Trumps national guard or marine goons.
Instead they beat up and arrest the people.
Remember it was only this weekend that LAPD shot journalists covering the protests completely unprovoked and with the journalists being clearly recognizable as they were live broadcasting into a camera being pointed at their face. LAPD is absolutely on the side of Trump and happy to crack down on people.
For the umpteenth time, Trump does not give a shit about the law. He will say whatever he wants, make up whatever he wants and do whatever he wants. Capitulating in advance to not "give him an excuse" is as productive as voting for Trump so he can't accuse you of rigging the election.
While you are not arong that "he" doesn't care, his administration does. They have released several high profile people that they were ordered to release for starters. They are starting to lose more and more court cases. Each loss gives military personnel more ground to declare an order unlawful. The same is true of republicans who don't like him but feel powerless to oppose him.
They have released several high profile people that they were ordered to release for starters. They are starting to lose more and more court cases.
These are, in the big picture, momentary setbacks, and even then he only complies with these months after they're made, when the damage is already done. Trump is deploying the military against American civilians and laying out the groundwork for declaring martial law (which he has effectively already declared in LA). ICE is arresting people off the street and threatening to arrest political opposition. The fascists are trying, and for the most part succeeding, in creating a situation where they don't need to listen to court orders. No democratic system, and certainly not America's, is capable of surviving when one half of it refuses to recognize that the other half is hopelessly compromised. The system cannot help you for the same reason it couldn't help the Germans or Italians.
The same is true of republicans who don't like him but feel powerless to oppose him.
You mean slightly more palatable fascists? There is only one word to describe a Republican in 2025: a fascist. Do you expect the fascists to cooperate with you against their great leader?
Trump will lie about any evidence. Fox News will rebroadcast his lies and edit videos themselves to support Trump's lies. MAGA will only watch Fox News and blindly believe everything they are told.
MAGA will only watch Fox News and blindly believe everything they are told.
Even after their entertainment channel was fined almost $800 million for lying to them.
Sure, but Fox will bury that any time it comes up, "oh, but the liberal courts made us say that because they didn't like the truth™" and then hide under the "we're just entertainment" excuse if questioned about it again.
Until they're forced to have a big disclaimer every couple minutes saying that they arent actually news, or just shut down outright for being so blatantly disingenuous, it'll never stop.
Sometimes I wish news channels could be forced to cite their sources.
Is nobody allowed to work after 8 pm? What about their paychecks?
This would be more convincing if they didn't have over 1/2 dozen officers cornering and then shooting a pedestrian with a rubber bullet: https://lemmy.world/post/31196039
You can't take away their hobbies that's unfair. Just think of those poor officers