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NonCredibleDefense
A community for your defence shitposting needs
Rules
1. Be nice
Do not make personal attacks against each other, call for violence against anyone, or intentionally antagonize people in the comment sections.
2. Explain incorrect defense articles and takes
If you want to post a non-credible take, it must be from a "credible" source (news article, politician, or military leader) and must have a comment laying out exactly why it's non-credible. Low-hanging fruit such as random Twitter and YouTube comments belong in the Matrix chat.
3. Content must be relevant
Posts must be about military hardware or international security/defense. This is not the page to fawn over Youtube personalities, simp over political leaders, or discuss other areas of international policy.
4. No racism / hatespeech
No slurs. No advocating for the killing of people or insulting them based on physical, religious, or ideological traits.
5. No politics
We don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Stalinist, Baathist, or some other hot mess. Leave it at the door. This applies to comments as well.
6. No seriousposting
We don't want your uncut war footage, fundraisers, credible news articles, or other such things. The world is already serious enough as it is.
7. No classified material
Classified ‘western’ information is off limits regardless of how "open source" and "easy to find" it is.
8. Source artwork
If you use somebody's art in your post or as your post, the OP must provide a direct link to the art's source in the comment section, or a good reason why this was not possible (such as the artist deleting their account). The source should be a place that the artist themselves uploaded the art. A booru is not a source. A watermark is not a source.
9. No low-effort posts
No egregiously low effort posts. E.g. screenshots, recent reposts, simple reaction & template memes, and images with the punchline in the title. Put these in weekly Matrix chat instead.
10. Don't get us banned
No brigading or harassing other communities. Do not post memes with a "haha people that I hate died… haha" punchline or violating the sh.itjust.works rules (below). This includes content illegal in Canada.
11. No misinformation
NCD exists to make fun of misinformation, not to spread it. Make outlandish claims, but if your take doesn’t show signs of satire or exaggeration it will be removed. Misleading content may result in a ban. Regardless of source, don’t post obvious propaganda or fake news. Double-check facts and don't be an idiot.
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BAe harrier II technical manual
That's pretty sweet, though!
Not doubting you, but source?
"BAe harrier II technical manual war thunder leak" is it that hard to google?
With all the AI garbage, SEO and algorithm bullshit, search engines aren't what they used to be.
I'd rather ask the person making the claim to provide evidence, which really isn't a big ask.
That is too much text for someone who is too lazy to google lol
Yes, because as I just explained to you, it's not about laziness.
Buddy, we are on a discussion forum. Search results come to us, not the other way around.
Sounds like a you problem.
Yeah, why would anyone come to a discussion thread for relevant or useful information, to ask questions with helpful clarifications and answers?
Clearly it makes more sense to be an obstuse, smarmy asshole, that really helps the community seem welcoming and grow, makes everything seem jovial and friendly.
Yeah, why would anyone come to a discussion thread for relevant or useful information, to ask questions with helpful clarifications and answers?
Good question. Try googling it!
Beep.
10/10 account
They were looking for answer not an ad
Yeah, why would anyone come to a discussion thread for relevant or useful information, to ask questions with helpful clarifications and answers?
Good question. Try googling it!
Good question. Try googling it!
What kind of low rent plebian is still using google? Ewww...
Go back to reddit
I should have known that I needed to make my joke more obvious.
Also, I can't go back to reddit. I've been gone so long that they cancelled my passport.
Why do you exist? What is the point of you?
We don’t take kindly to corporate shills around here
Again?
this will absolutely not be the last time
Ya prolly not
Surely they're well into the twenties as to how many times this has happened?
16, I think
Sounds like a list long enough to have a dedicated wikipedia article.
Well they don't have a dedicated article, but a very long list in the warthunder article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Thunder
The fact that the wiki states that 2 of the leaks were posted just to win an argument is hilarious to me
Amazing
I've said it before, I'll say it again:
Lock the entire forum into read-only mode for a week, and plaster the leakers name on the front page as the reason for the lock.
That's how you get weekly leaks
Yeah I'm sure Warthunder DOESNT want that to happen. They are a Russian company after all- I'm sure they want people to STOP posting classified documents of western vehicles!
Considering that they've basically said everything to stop the postings aside* from threatening to ban people from the game, I'd say they actually don't want the posts.
*They've said they will never used the leak material for game design purposes, and they also cooperate in the prosecutions of the leakers, IIRC with the nato/western leaks.
If you're a Russian spy op you don't give a shit about using classified docs for improving the game, and once you trick an idiot into giving up classified docs why wouldn't you cooperate with authorities. It's not like you give a shit about some dumbass US airman or that you don't keep copies. If the they didn't cooperate they wouldn't have a chance at getting the next 15 leaks after the first one. You would have to be a fucking idiot to not cooperate and keep the classified docs rolling.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying the logic you used to come to that conclusion is deeply flawed.
As lwl already said, the reason that gaijin's statement matters is because none of the leaks that I saw posted on war thunder's forums were for clout. This isn't the dumbass in discord posting stuff because he got pissed off that others didn't believe how cool he was. All of them were because the player had a beef with the developer's take on the capabilities of a tank/plane and they wanted gaijin to use the real world takes on what their favorite little machine could do.
As far as cooperating, why would they need to in order to keep the leaks coming? These are gamers, and specifically simulation lovers who sometimes have nearly disorder-like focus on war machines, not dipshits in an office trying to use microsoft word. If gaijin didn't cooperate and a country tried to block the forums for war thunder, the users would probably rant for five minutes, then fire up a vpn or proxy and log in.
You're right. The people posting classified materials to a game forum for clout would absolutely hate if everyone knew they were posting classified materials because they don't want clout
Why would they, whoever "they" is in this instance?
Oh no! The harrier? Did they get the specs for the Avro Vulcan? What about the Spitfire?
The details of the Boulton Paul Defiant mk1 might be floating around somewhere... And a Catalina too.
Again??? Christ.
How did they put it out this time?
That's insane