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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rep. Al Green’s impeachment resolution was tabled on a 344-79 vote, with 128 Democrats joining all 216 Republicans to kill the measure.

The only time Dems and Republicans unite, is to say Israel is totally cool and we should give them more money...

I shouldn't have to explain why that's an issue.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But if you do, you’ll get cancelled.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone else told me the same thing earlier on a different comment...

And I just gotta disagree.

I've been criticizing Israel's monetary relationship with American politicians for about 20 years now. Before Facebook was invented even.

Never been "cancelled".

I didn't want to explain it because I was being lazy. You can 100% talk about why it's an issue, especially here. If you find yourself being "cancelled" then you may want to take a step back and re-evaluate what you are saying and looking into the validity of it.

I mean, right now we're on one of the major communities on our instance, openly discussing it...

No one is being "cancelled"

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not surprised, just disappointed. They're all complicit

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (9 children)

They’re all complicit

What?

79 voted for it, if you don't think that's fucking huge, you don't understand how bad it's been

Shit is improving, quickly even.

But like ~20% of the House openly and publicly going against Israel? Thats significant and the trend looks set to continue.

And I shouldn't have to say this...

But ~80% is less than 100%, so no, it's not "all".

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you considered that maybe "all" was referring to "all that voted against it" ?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Have you considered that my comment might have been intended to be the entire lyrics to 80s Belgium techno anthem Pump up the Jams?

Sometimes we have to take words at face value.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

But that would change the entirety of what you wrote. Not the interpretation of a single word that is the same in both instances.

Like, obviously it's not 100% of people in gov. But seriously, it's the whole fucking thing. Rotten to the core.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Shit is improving, quickly even.

On what planet?

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 week ago

Fucking traitors

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How much proof do you need to understand they are working in concert to usher in an imperial fascist police state. The Democrats don’t oppose the Republicans, they oppose YOU. To them, YOU are the threat.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think, given the huge leap you've made, I'm gonna need a little more proof.

Hanlon says hello.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In the context of defending our country from the ongoing fascist takeover, Democrats being too stupid to understand that they need to do something about it might be worse than actively supporting it so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

[Looks at Congress not doing shit to Trump's constant misuse of his powers]

Yeah sure, big leap. I'm sure they're actually working on stopping him out of public view, just trust them to do the right thing next time.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Americans are the biggest cowards in the world.

What a fucking timeline, this is incredible 😳

Edit: and I don't mean this in an insulting manner, I truly feel bad for them. Barbarians are taking over the Rome, everyone is fucked...

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They removed David Hogg from his position but vote to keep trump in his.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hogg is a threat to the oligarchy whereas Trump, the entire Republican party, and most of the Democratic party are complicit in supporting it.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (15 children)

Roll call for this vote if you want to see how your representative voted and perhaps give them some feedback.

EDIT: The Clerk’s website went down earlier. When it came back up, it looks like they’re returning the wrong results. The vote to table the impeachment resolution was roll call #175, the number you see in the URL. It looks like it’s now displaying the results for roll call #178 on the page, a vote to adjourn. I’ve updated the link to an alternate view that seems to be returning the results for the correct vote, but please check the title of page in case this gets broken again.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Holy crap - We have complicit Oligarchs and not a opposition party. We as the kids say - are cooked.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Nice so the site is down now what a joke

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Service unavailable on my end. I assume due to high demand, not censorship. I hope so at least.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The law is clear. It doesn't matter if it's politically convenient or likely to succeed. If the President breaks the law, which Trump clearly has, they must be impeached.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

2025 America is a post-law country.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least for the rich and powerful

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Always been for the rich and powerful, 2025 isn't new territory for them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's new that they aren't even pretending to play by the same rules

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Call your representative and tell them you won't vote for them if they don't support impeachment.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

The political system is completely fucked. I think going grassroots with direct action is currently the best way to both resist, and build horizontal decentralized power that isn't prone to corruption.

  1. find local communities and get involved to make connections
  2. We can effect things drastically with a general strike. This targets the establishment's income streams, and can bring a fascist government to its knees if done on a large enough scale.
  3. Contact a union and attempt to unionize your workplace so that the general strike is even more effective (plus, ya know, better pay and working conditions as a bonus!)

This method would not only work in the US, but anywhere in the world.

Union Suggestions:

  1. Continuing to participate in publicly visible resistance demonstrations like 50501 (the next one is July 17th) to encourage others to stand up with you and prove to that there are millions of others who will join them in the fight. A large part of Nazi Germany's success in taking over the country was a lack of massive public demonstrations against the new regime, making people feel helpless and afraid to take a stand.

If we put in the work, we can resist this and we can win. Look at how effective these methods were when used in Chile in 2019.. If we completely reject the political system and rebel on a mass scale, there is NOTHING they can do to stop us.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

It's just like in the playground; almost everybody want to stand up to the bully, but nobody has the guts. They are afraid the bully will call them names or attack. And when finally one does stand up, the others cowers in a corner.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Revolution in the streets everyone! Let’s go if they don’t want change we will give them change.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Ah, the Geronocrats. Always been a disappointment throughout my entire life, before and after I became eligible to vote.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

TBH I think they're right. It has zero chance to result in removal. It has zero chance of passing either house of congress. It just ends up being an ineffective gesture. Save it for when you have some chance of actually changing something.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And why does it have zero chance? Could it be because they oppose it, instead of supporting it? Imagine all Democrats stood together on this and they could get a few Reps over. Even if it would fail, they would send a signal of unity and standing up for what is right, which could get them back some voters the disgruntled with the whole genocide and appeasing fascism thing.

But no, they double down on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

For one, because the misconduct named in the impeachment is something every president in the 21st century at least has done (military strikes with congressional approval), which makes it a lot harder to justify it as an impeachable offense to people more concerned with law than finding any excuse to try to punish Trump.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

And why does it have zero chance?

Gerrymandering in the House and vote caging in the Senate, combined with a media that's the mouthpiece of genocidal billionaires, guarantee Republicans a permanent advantage in Congress no matter how unpopular their leadership becomes.

Imagine all Democrats stood together on this and they could get a few Reps over.

Hardly have to image. That's exactly what occurred in 2019 and 2021. All the Republicans who defected got primaried out and replaced with MAGAts. Dems who played footsie with your Liz Cheneys and Jeff Flakes ended up poisoning their own electoral campaigns and losing supporters. The horse trading between centrist Dems and Repubs backfired colossally, as the legislature could only do shit people hated, while Nancy and Chuck whined about needing bipartisanship to Beat Trump.

Then Biden took office, Merrick Garland refused to press charges of any sort, and Trump scampered off Scott free to run again in four years.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

Fuck that.

Of course it has no chance of passing. That has absolutely no bearing on future attempts to impeach the dictator which also will have no chance of passing.

But you know what voting against it does? It tells the American People that the democrats in office support trump completely shitting on everything and unilaterally joining israel in a war.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

And how is doing nothing any better? We are literally on the precipice of authoritarianism yet we are still trying to find the right time. People are literally getting picked up off the streets, we are baselessly bombing countries for Israel, we have the national guard and Marines being sent to cities, we are imposing tariffs on our allies, the president is actively and blatantly accepting bribes, we have an incompetent cabinet that is dismantling everything they see, we have a "big beautiful bill" that will ruin people's lives, we had DOGE hijack all of our data, we have tourists being detained for social media posts, we have people being detained for their free speech, and we have masked men pointing guns at citizens that refuse to identify themselves. So, when is the right time? Is it when it specifically affects them for once? Because if they have to wait that long than we are all fucked.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

They all wanted to bomb Iran anyway

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Fucking useless.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Hence why I won’t be voting for my Dem Rep in the next election we may have. Fuck that collaborator bitch.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I wonder who funds the ones who voted to kill it

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