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I guess some people thought it was AI, but just a cool moment in my basement window well.

Edit: taken with my iPhone several years ago since that’s all I had with me when it happened so quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

To be fair, I totally understand why people think it's AI. Between the phone camera processes and the extreme postprocessing, this looks more deep fried than some memes I've seen. It almost looks like it's got a cartoon filter applied.

Add on the fact that OP is trying hard to down play how much editing has been done, it starts to feel like it doesn't add up. If OP posted the unedited photo to show the bad phone sharpening and admitted how much editing was done on top of that, people would understand what they are looking at.

Don't get me wrong, it looks cool, but when someone says "oh, no I just took this with my phone", I look at that and think that's not the whole truth.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Thanks for your meaningful, informed, and helpful contribution.

Of course it’s edited. Pro tip: every image is edited. Nothing anyone sees is raw from the sensor. It’s all completely arbitrary. Even people who shoot film show edited photos, they just offload the editing to the film lab. Someone else is doing the processing for them.

Even direct from a digital camera to jpeg, the camera is performing countless transformations and adjustment s before burning to jpeg. See film emulations on Fuji cameras for example.

The entire point of photography is to present to people a compelling vision that feels the way you did when you saw it.

That being said, this is basic curve and a vignette.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

post the original, then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

The interesting part about doing a vignette is that it shows up in ELA when you run it through any one of the dozen doctored image detector websites, the re-encode around the changes shows up in the data when it inspects them, this image has zero error level deviation.

That's interesting because it also doesn't appear as AI at all through the AI detection tests. But here you're saying it's actually edited. Maybe the CDN was heavy-handed enough to destroy the ELA. Zip up your edited copy and give that to the masses. The nay-sayers can run it through Fotoforensics and see it's manually edited. You have already passed all the AI detection pages with 0% AI probability.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

So you don't have the original anymore?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Post original or its AI

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

+1 OP, I wanna see it without

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bro got caught and is trying to say everything is edited.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, it's basic settings in like every fucking phone for the last 15 years? Get over yourselves - you aren't judges at National Geographic photographer of the year, it's a neat pic dude wanted to share.

Let people share neat things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right? It's a standard color pass. People acting like it has to be RAW/LOG to be real.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean even your sentence is edited. Nobody forms a true thought without altering it in their mind. Talking is the art of representing the thoughts and atoms in your brain in the way we want you to see it. Literally everything is a lie. So lying is always morally acceptable. /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah exactly, it's a cool shot, but to me it looks like a scan of an oil on canvas painting.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (12 children)

I remember trying to warn people on Reddit that their anti-AI crusades were going to hurt real people making real art, especially surrealists, and got banned from a bunch of art subs for being “pro-AI” as a result. Actually, they phrased it in far more hurtful and inflammatory ways, like “advocating theft.” Apparently caring about not hurting real human beings making real human art is “advocating theft.”

I don’t miss Reddit. That place was bad for my mental health.

P.S. This photo is beautiful and I’m happy you had a mind to capture it and share it. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Well, also AI is hurting actual human beings. We should be fighting against it too. Yeah, be careful of crossfire, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't fire at all.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get these kind of reactions on Lemmy all the time. I say something that isn't the exact party line, people assume I'm their worst enemy even though our disagreement is very minor in the broad scheme.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There's always an US vs THEM element to any culture, but to me it seems like there's been a relatively recent social trend (as in like the last decade) that anybody who isn't jumping up and down waving pompoms for the one right side of an issue is presumed to be an extremist for the polar opposite wrong side, and all their other views about the world and their overall way of life are probably also despicable. It's very simple binary thinking and works well with memes - minimal information to take in, quick and easy to process, one obvious right answer. It also fits gaming mindset very well - is this NPC on my side or should I kill him?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's the same shit on lemmy

I was watching a video yesterday where the video author said it was sketchy that another ytber had used an AI voice but still credited the original voice actor the Ai voice was based on, the voice actor also chimed in that they agreed and were still being paid even though the AI voice was being used.

Literally every time I see arguments against AI from creative it's because losing income/stealing, he hit both those and yet that is still not good enough.

The goal posts will ever shift and the rage will never end.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I got banned from a fandom subreddit for pointing out that a certain fan remaster was (partially, with tons of manual work) made with ML models. Specifically with oldschool GANs, and some smaller, older models as part of a deinterlacing pipeline, from before 'generative AI' was even a term.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It's the same thing for writing. Use a single emdash and you get accused of using LLMs. It's like, no, I'm literate. I read books. Sorry for paying attention in class..

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

The default subs are controlled by people involved with karma farming. Some of them are so bad that the mods will ban anyone with a high number of upvotes to prevent them from competing with the bots.

Funny enough, I bet the same mods will let a bot report your pic in a few months.

[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I for one, welcome our new pinecone overlord.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 days ago (3 children)

the ai witchhunt gets a bit silly, sorry you got caught up in v it. very cool photo!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

r/pics is a massive joke anyways. Screw that sub!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thomas Kinkade's pinecone.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Too much HDR. I can see why they thought it's AI.

Still a nice shot. The composion and framing is nice.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Composition*, fellow human.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

conus pineae divinae

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

I have a mental image of you in a basement sweatshop in Philadelphia- the air is full of smoke and there's a constant barrage of German speeches and gunfire being played over the loudspeaker, broken only by the occasional steam whistle. You take a longing glance out the window, wishing you were on one of the higher floors so you could jump. And there is it.

Pinecone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

"Obviously" has been a conclusive reason to condemn things since social media began. So of course "obviously AI" falls under that impeccable standard.

Also just curious, is taking photos with an iPhone something people apologize for now? I don't keep up with all the latest acceptibility rules.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was more to denote the presence of Apple’s processing algorithms, which are possibly part of why people think it’s AI or painted. Lots of people on Reddit thought it was a painting and some pointed to the painterly look of details when zoomed into.

Lots of discussion about that being the result of Apple’s fusion algo, which merges many rapidly taken exposures to eliminate noise, at the expense of real detail.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

If reddit was a thing before Photoshop was around, I assume they'd block not only that too, but stuff like changing hue, exposure, etc.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I highly doubt AI would properly generate a Fibonacci sequence in the pinecones.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Eat it for permanent +0 to HP.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Since the light is hitting things just right, probably put some random objects or action figures in there to see if people notice. Every day is a new story! Cool picture by the way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

the light is hitting things just right

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well, stop feeding reddit's AI machine.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

serves you right for posting something so lewd.

stupid sexy pinecones...

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