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CNN data guru Harry Enten broke down the latest polling in the Democratic Party on views toward Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday and marveled at the massive shift in attitudes, declaring he’s “rarely” seen anything like it in his many years of looking at polling data.

Enten spoke to anchor Kate Bolduan in the context of Zohran Mamdani’s sweeping victory over ex-Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York City’s Democratic Party mayoral primary last week.

"What are we talking about here? All right, who do Democrats sympathize more with: Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points—more with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now, Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points.Oh my God! That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just eight years. So all of a sudden, it’s the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in Democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mamdani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats"

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[–] [email protected] 213 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Committing genocide tends to turn the public against you.

And somehow that comment is antisemitic. Because the Nazis are Jewish now. I just want people to stop killing other people!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

I just want people to stop killing other people!

hey, that's antisemitic! think of all the profits weapons companies could make, you're hurting them. what about their freedom?

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So all of a sudden

Maybe something happened that caused the shift? Hmm, what could it be?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

Don't say it or you're an anti-semite. Shocking that opposing the murdering and starving of people is antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Was right on the tip of my tongue, but can't quite come up with it. Something about a gen or side? Something like that I think.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

genside? generation? genetics? idk

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now that trump is implementing centrists' only policy for them, they have to pretend to dislike it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

3 months back .world would have banned you for even suggesting genocide is bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The fuck are you on about, mate?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What I think is most unbelievable is that the Israelis actually think people are buying their BS excuses. They really need to take lessons from Trump who apparently can make millions believe the most ridiculous lies.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Israelis don't really care as long as people keep voting for the two parties which are in their pocket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'm not even sure it's just the funding. Israel has the Mossad, famously one of the most effective and ruthless intelligence agencies on the planet. Is it really hard to imagine they simply have damning blackmail material on many of the political leaders of both parties? The carrot is the AIPAC money. The stick is the Mossad and its tools. Hell, for a particularly troublesome lawmaker, would they even be above resorting to assassination? Look at how many innocent people they're willing to kill to get one Hamas or Iranian military leader. If they thought killing a US House member of Senator was necessary to keep US support, do you really think they would be above that? I certainly don't. And I don't think they would be above subtly pointing that out to US lawmakers.

The Israelis are masters at assassinating foreign leaders. They mostly apply that to their enemies, but if they're convinced a US lawmaker is their enemy, there's no reason to suspect they would be above killing US leaders as well. I honestly believe that many US leaders support Israel in part out of a genuine fear for their physical safety. The killing of a US leader would likely be done quietly, rather than a bomb dropped on someone's house. But I have zero doubt that Israel makes credible death threats against US leaders.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I hate that you're correct

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Isn't that what Netanyahu has being doing all along?

[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I mean, there wasn't an incredibly well documented, active genocide happening 8 years ago.

That has a lot of sway on public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There was, in Palestine. In 2014, Israel murdered like 1,400 Palestinians. This is nowhere near new for Israel, it is SOP for 70 years. The difference is that social media platforms gave us a direct view that corporate media actively chooses to not show us, as you pointed to.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Reporting almost 60,000 killed in this current war. That’s over 40x as many. Not downplaying the 1,400 but let’s not pretend this isn’t a great escalation compared to the atrocities of the past

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

It was an open air prison poised for a genocide then. I’m glad people are realizing that the Israeli is as evil as anything and they shield it with a blanket of “antisemitism” to shut everyone up. That old chestnut no longer is working.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I would say that the most telling thing is that there hasn't been a similar shift among Republicsns.

Anyone who can look at what Israel has done and is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza, and increasingly in the West Bank, without being filled with horror, revulsion and pity is a monster.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Republicans are shitty people full stop.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago

Fox News simply isn't covering the genocide. There's your explanation.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I hate you whoever came up with saying points instead of percentage.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's because describing a 56 percentage point increase as 56 percent increase implies a totally different result. A 56 percentage point increase on 10% is 66%. A 56 percent increase on 10% is 15.6%.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, boy, wair for it: there're also a million less palestinians to sympathise with than there were 8 years ago. I think something is going on down there. Something very anti-semitic.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

People still think the Democratic Party is a democratic institution lol

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