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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Maybe Scotland. If they could fully separate from the dead weight down south.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think I’d like to move to Canada. However, I have no money, and do not have a degree or anything like that. I think the plant I work at has operations in Canada, so there might be the possibility of transferring there. Even if the opportunity presented itself, I refuse to leave my son, so I am stuck here.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Chinese. I... don't think China accepts immigration, so I don't think it matters what most Chinese people think of Americans. Not that I think China would be an ideal expat destination for most Americans anyway... China also have most of the problems US have. Maybe for some highly accomplished scientists/business executives who can be offered a job (since China is spending a lot on R&D), but that's probably it

As someone who lived in the US for a long time and actively considered this?

  • Northern European countries are nice for anyone who doesn't mind living like a vampire; there is basically no sunlight in winter, but they are probably the best in terms of providing what an "average person" wants and needs
  • There are countries here and there which have low cost-of-living and high quality-of-life, assuming that I only want to be an "expat" who wants to live temporarily and am not trying to find work there (remote work, savings, or something else). My parents insist that Thailand fits this category; I believe several South American countries fit the bill as well
  • Realistically, if I actually want to immigrate, it will probably end up being one of the random EU countries, whichever I can get in via ancestry or find a job in...
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Why is the difference between immigrant and ex patriot?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's relative to the country - you expatriate from your country of origin, and become an immigrant to a new host country.

Expatriate and emigrate are more or less synonyms.

ex patriot

That's what I became when the Nazis took over as a result of being overwhelming popular to US voters. Turns out it's not just a handful of powerful fuckers taking advantage of the rest of us: 'we the people' are, for the most part, just evil.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

No, the difference is whether you are just residing outside your home country or actually immigrating to the new country. It is the difference between a vacation and moving somewhere. It is more along the lines of external patriot than former patriot.

Someone who still sees themselves as a citizen of their home country and just happens to live elsewhere is an expat. So an American living in Mexico is an expat, no matter what their length of stay is. If they immigrate, they are moving permanently and they see themselves as a part of the new country, either by seeking citizenship or claiming that as their 'home' as part of their identity.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the country i was to go to is the imagined America of our ancestors like Langston Hughes, the land of equality and opportunity and liberation and diversity, full of immigrants working for their own and their shared futures

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Hey. If yanks get get to Canada, and get in, I'm sure we'd love to have ya.

There's a catch: if you're not fleeing persecution, you're gonna need a skill. It bumps up your score on the big calculation they do, and if you can keep doing the skilled work you may one day afford to live somewhere other than winnipeg.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Dream country? Monaco, lol. But more realistically either Canada, Australia or New Zealand

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

Stand and fight, you cowards.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Stay in Germany and fight, your cowards"

-@[email protected] said to Jewish Refugees in 1933

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How are we supposed to fight a nearly endless supply of morons along with overthrowing three branches of our government?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you not been screaming about guns for as long as anyone alive can remember?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the morons were the ones also screaming about guns

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're condemning a lot of innocent people to die.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I used to say this a lot, but the longer i live, the more i understand that "stand and fight" requires a lot of will power, especially when you have to rub shoulder with the jarring issue daily, the very issue that makes you want to leave, and the authority doesn't give a single fuck about it after countless report. In any case, it's the lost of faith toward the fellow countrymen, not the administration.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Portugal, though I doubt they want Americans any more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Nobody body really wants tourists and "expats" any more. That shit is cancer

Just toxic monoculture destroying local way of life so that some clown "capitalist" can turn a buck on rentals and bars.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I'd be in Aukland now if I hadn't met my partner between deciding in 2021 and the election. She is a refugee and can't leave or she'll lose status. She is a political enemy of her government for advocating for democracy there. Did a phone interview and everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I'm an antinationalist with regards to usa. No

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm thinking either Finland or Norway. But the only way I could ever emigrate to either of those countries would be as an asylum seeker. I don't make enough money, nor do I have any skills they want. I've got plenty of skills...just not any that are in 'high demand'.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I would go back to Japan if my partner could/would learn the language.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

New Zealand is quite lovely; I could afford it and I’m on the expedited list of specialties. Can’t leave the kids, though, so I’m stuck watching the ship go down.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

If I could live in no country I’d be so happy. But the only place to do that is a desert in Africa and my natural habitat is temperate forests.

So I guess Canada.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Canada, I'm a citizen there as well

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