We should blockade america.
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Tesla tried to do it all at once instead of perfecting the electric tech first and then incrementally adding on advances. They also made change for change’s sake. There’s absolutely no reason mechanical door locks could not have been engineered to work on this car as the default method of opening and closing the door. It’s killing people.
In this crash, part of the blame was on retracting handles on the outside, not the interior locks. If the handle is retracted, it’s tough to open the door from the outside.
- model s has electrically presented handles. The car has to be somewhat functional for the handles to extend …. I haven’t heard of extend on emergency or extend on power lost, or any other failsafe
- model 3/y door handles are not electrical. You have to press on one end to extend the other. You may or may not like them, but at least they don’t have that failure case of what happens when the car loses power
There's absolutely a reason to not engineer something you're not required to. It's called capitalism. Tesla cut every corner they could.
Also, the fact that they removed Lidar sensors and just base their self driving on cameras is plainly stupid.
Technical debt.
If you promise self driving on all cars, but cars already on the road don't have lidar then no car has lidar.
That's not really the case, as Elon's already admitted that there are at least about a half a million Teslas with old HW3 self driving computers that need to have them upgraded to HW4 for them to have the chance at eventually get the FSD the buyers were promised. That's not even mentioning the upgraded cameras the HW4 vehicles have gotten. The reason for Musk not wanting lidar on Teslas is very simple: cost. He thinks it's too expensive and unnecessary, unlike every single other manufacturer working on the same problem.
I mean it’s all true:
- humans drive based on vision alone
- moving to one type of sensor simplifies the ai
- lidar has been much bulkier, much more expensive than other sensors.
Most importantly, since no one has self driving yet, it’s premature to talk about that as a mistake. Let it fail or succeed on its merits. Let other self-driving attempts fail or succeed on their merits.
Upgrading a computer is very different to adding a new sensor array all around the body.
I'm not saying upgrading older cars the only reason for excluding lidar, but I bet it was a large factor.
You can choose not to drive bleeding edge technology, but sadly you have no choice in whether to share the road with it.
its on you if you bought a tesla after the twitter purchase, cant have buyers remorse.
It's simple, you condemn Elon just because you envy him.
Clearly this premise, upon which your further exchanges are based, is complete bullshit.
You are a troll, presumably one for whom any response is a win. It gives you a little dopamine hit.
What a pathetic place to get to. There are a million ways to get a dopamine hit less pathetic than this, including all of the major addictive drugs.
oh yes, I felt good just now...
Bait used to be believable.
I guess you’re one of those I got mine fuck you types. Booooring
I am one of those who do not participate in the circus performance. I just sit in the front row and watch the clowns.
Don't cut yourself on that edge.
It wasn't me who said this; it's a quote from George Carlin. But I agree with it 100%.
Obviously you don't know what a 'quote' is. Carlin never said such a thing. I don't need to look it up to know he never said that, because Carlin was perhaps the best comedy writer of all time, and your 'quote' seems like it's engineered to be unfunny.
This statement works from anyone's PoV.
Lol
The very least he could do is not sell unsafe vehicles. It's literally the very least he can do but he can't be asked to do that because of his ego. I condemn him for that.
Lord, just think about how many people any other car manufacturer kills...
Is the best defence you have is it everyone else is just as bad that's not really he defence, that's just coopism.
Just don't cry for God's sake
Seems like a lot of this technology is very untested and there are too many variables to make it where it should not be out on the roads.
Move fast and break things, but it's a passenger vehicle on a public road.
It's been a nightmare seeing tech companies move into the utility space and act like they're the smartest people in the room and the experts that have been doing it for 100 years are morons. Move fast and break things isn't viable when you're operating power infrastructure either. There's a reason why designs require the seal of a licensed engineer before they can be constructed. Applying a software development mentality to any kind of engineering is asking for fatalities
This is the kind of shit that makes me worried even seeing someone else driving one of these deathtraps near me while I am driving. They could explode or decide to turn into me on the highway or something. I think I about this more than Final Destination when seeing a logging truck these days.
It's one of those rules you make for yourself when you drive...
Like no driving next to people with dents...
Or
Stay away from trucks with random shit in the back not strapped down ...
No driving near New cars, they are new and or it's because they got into an accident so best just be safe...
So
No driving near a Tesla...
Article does not actually answer why Tesla vehicles crash as much as they do or how their crash frequency compares to other vehicles. Its more about how scummy tesla is as a company and how it witholds data from the public when it could incriminate them.
just scanning the article, it seems to sum it up as - No one knows why yet, not even Tesla '
With a dash of - Tesla might know and be withholding information
Yeah, it’s because they didn’t put a lidar on their fucking cars because they’re cheap, It’s not a mystery, why don’t you know this?
That you, Elon?
In some ways that is the answer. Crashes keep happening because they are not being held accountable to regulators because they are not reporting these incidents and no one is exercising oversight to be sure the reporting matches reality.
I think over the years, accurate reporting by manufacturers has been done because they generally do not want to be known as that car company that killed a child and it could have been prevented with a 50 cent bolt. As a result, regulators have been less hawkish. Of course there are probably political donations in the US to help keep the wheels turning.
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