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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

61km/h instead of 48km/h. You’re welcome.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

38 in a 30.

You're welcome.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

There’s a road near my house that has sections at 30mph, 40, and 50. Most folks drive 45 on all three.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I dont find this too wild honestly.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I do. Driving 61 instead of 48 km/h increases your distance to stop at an emergency by almost 8m. This is assuming 300ms reaction time. By the time you would have stopped at 48km/h you would still be ramming whatever it is you're emergency braking for with ~~40km/h~~ 15km/h if you go 61km/h.

Speeding is no joke, please read about how braking distance scales with speed. Especially if you go 50km/h in a 30 you're spelling a death sentence for anyone and anything running into the streets. And no, "they shouldn't run on the street" is not an argument, children and animals will always do unpredictable things, and being inattentive isn't a reason to execute someone

Edit: used km/h instead of m/s in my calculations

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Good point, you are absolutely right, also since she was caught multiple times maybe its time for her to rethink her actions

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If she was caught doing 38mph in a 30, then her car was probably displaying 40 or 41mph as the speedo's always report you going a higher speed than you're going. So I'd say that's pretty bad, especially when you've been caught several times before in such a short space of time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Depends on where you are. 10 over on some roads is crazy, but there are many roads where 20 over is still fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd say 10 over on any 30mph zone is crazy. These are usually in built up areas so there's no excuse for it.

but there are many roads where 20 over is still fine.

Can't say I agree. National speed limit is either 60 or 70mph depending on the road and I wouldn't want to do 20mph over on either.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 days ago (19 children)

38mph in a 30mph zone

Seems strict to me. but I'm not British.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

30 is for built up areas. Also key is that jaywalking isn’t a thing in Britain. Pedestrians always have right of way and can cross the street at any point so in urban areas motorists must be prepared to stop at any time.

There’s also a 10% grace where prosecutions under that are unusal. But the chances of survival being hit at 38mph are significantly lower than at 30, or even 33.

The ban is for exceeding the penalty points on her licence. She had 9pts before this conviction, and speeding carries 6-8pts which has put her over the 12pt limit, which she accumulated over 3yrs so that’s a 6-month ban.

After 6 months she will need to take her driving test again and reapply for her licence.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Just as this this guy says

you dont get a ban for the first instance. This shows repeated offences. Lucky she has the money for a driver.

I have little patience for serial speeders. Gripe all you like, but speed limits save lives.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

Particularly in populated areas, slow the fuck down. Too many people could get hurt, go speed somewhere the people aren't.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

But the chances of survival being hit at 38mph are significantly lower than at 30, or even 33.

I've been knocked down by a car doing 5mph. My head was embedded in the bonnet, bounced off it, and then I was on the road staring at the underside and tyre of a fortunately stopped car before my puny human brain could figure out what happened.

Being hit, even at 5mph, is not something you'd want, let alone 38.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

My idiot sister racked up nine points in six months after moving to the UK. She claimed not to have seen the 40mph sign she blew past at 50. "They're so small!" She only started paying attention when she realised she was one ticket away from a ban.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Pretty sure speeding in that range would net a fixed penalty of 3 points. Also, she would have had the first 3 points discounted via an awareness course. So, in effect this is likely the 5th offense, or less if one or more of the others was serious enough to get 6 points.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

She already had nine points on her licence, so she's a repeat offender, hence the book getting thrown at her.
Conversely, this happened in Oxford, which is well known for being strict on drivers. She might have got away with it elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The amount you are allowed to drive over the speed limit is in fact 0mph (0 km/h for us Europeans).

Tolerance of violations of this is a sign of a deeply broken society

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is different in Germany but we learn about tolerance in driving school. Your speedometer can be wrong by about 10% and speed guns can also have errors. A good system accounts for unintentional speeding.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Speedometers are not allowed to display a lower speed than the vehicle is running at all under EU regulation - see https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX%3A42004X0331%2801%29&qid=1752829119241 § 5.3

Displaying a speed slightly higher than actual speed is common and an acceptable margin of safety, such that if you are driving at the speed that the speedometer shows, you are more or less guaranteed to not exceed the speed limit.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

How so? Its very clearly over the limit, its not like you can accidentally go around 30% over the limit. Plus don't cars usually over report their speed slightly?

The only surprise is that she was caught, so she probably does this all the time and this was just the time she was finally caught doing it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (5 children)

it's not like you can accidentally go around 30% over the limit

When that 30% is 8mph, yes you can

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Look at a speedometer. You see where 30 is? Now see where 40 is. Do you notice that the line for 40 is past the line for 30? If the needle is past the line for 30 you are diving too fast. There is no way you can do it unless you are not paying attention to your speed.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'd be open to this argument for something like 3 mph or 4 mph, maybe even five. But eight? If you're so bad at keeping track of your speed you can't tell the difference between zero and eight something is seriously wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

I initially thought that. But the article makes it clear. But you need to know how our licenses work.

Normally for speeding (up to 42mph in a 30) you would get as a first offense the choice of paying for a speed awareness course OR 3 points + fine, and 43-49mph you would get a fixed penalty of 3 points and a fine. Subsequent offenses would go straight to points + fine.

However the points are important. Your points expire after 3 years. But if you have 12 active points at any time, you will then get a compulsory ban (unless you can prove to a court you need to drive, which is abused of course). Which is what likely happened here.

So, she's been quite the habitual offender.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Interesting the cultural difference here. People arguing in favor of, or at least the reasonableness of, the law and its application. Americans regularly speed, 20+ mph over the limit is not uncommon. People would lose their shit over a driving ban in the US, and probably keep driving anyway. DUI repeat offenders and suspended license drivers are pretty common.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 days ago (3 children)

and probably keep driving anyway

In much of the US, the alternative is lose your job and become homeless, so.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

I had my license suspended for 90 days - due to a paperwork error when I was in college. I just had hope I didnt get pulled over at that time because I had no choice but to drive for school and work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Higher incentive to not speed, then

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Passing by a sign that lowers the speed limit without noticing it means you deserve to be homeless?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Repeat offenders and unlicensed drivers happen here as well. But the use of cameras makes it much harder then the past.

But having lived in the US. Most of it has so little public transport not driving is impossible. Here it is doable in all but the most remote areas. Just crap compared to the 80s and before. It is still way better the most cities in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

"She is in a position to pay the fine."

No shit!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thames valley police hate the car. I’ve been done a couple of times that way. 33 in a 30 for me last time, Really strict.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have you tried… learning how to operate a car?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I suspect you might be telling on yourself here as someone who didn’t drive.

People who go through car education and actually drive learn about system tolerances. Speedometers can be off by up to 10% and radar guns can be off by about the same.

If you actually drive and use cruise control set to 30 and go up a hill to a level section of road, the cruise control will likely bring you up to 33 before it reacts the reduced power needs and brings you down to 30 again.

Cars in real life are not exactly like they are in video games.

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